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flakesitchyfeet
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Topic: Homeschooling.... Posted: 04 November 2010 at 6:14am |
Okay, so discuss
Would you? Wouldn't you? Do you? Do you know someone who does? Advantages from your P.O.V? Disadvantages?
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 7:00am |
Sorry, no I don't home school and never could - just would not work with me  But I really wanted to say how much I  your blog
Perhaps check out the Pioneer Woman blog - she is American and home schools her 4 kids. There is a section on her blog about homeschooling. You may fine it interesting. Disclaimer - it is a very addictive site
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 7:57am |
Sorry forgot the link
The Pioneer Woman
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 9:08am |
Hmmm, I have absolutely nothing against it, but don't think that personally I could do it, I don't know anyone who does, but it would be interesting to hear about it, I can definitely see why people do it though
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 9:20am |
I did correspondence from the age of about 6 ½ through to the beginning of high school. I loved it. I could get my school work done early in the day and spend heaps more time playing. I think I thrived on the one on one tuition also.
When I started high school I was in the top 5% of pupils my age in the county……boy did that go down hill attending school! I struggled in the first year as I had pretty much done all the work that was being taught so got bored (I had already done that years work in English, Maths and History so relaxed a little too much)
I think it is great, but do feel it needs to be structured because if you do go to a ‘school’ it is a HUGE change and takes a fair bit of adjustment.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 10:28am |
I lived in the states and it wasn't common but not uncommon IYGWIM. My brother and sister inlaw who live in houston home school their three boys. She is not happy with the school in their zone and so she chooses to home school as private school was outrageous in cost. (She was a nasa scientist at the space centre there so I think she is making a wise decision). Now that her boys are getting older she sends them to a home-schooled tutor session. It is when the older kids go for 1 day per week to a group of other home schooled kids to work on a project and learn social interaction in a learning environment. About 50 kids attend. She also has a roster with a few other home schooling mums for sports dates etc.
The boys are very bright (my brother is a bit of a brainbox too so they have good genes). The down side is not having a break from the kids. Having all the responsibility on your shoulders. The good side is they can learn so much more and quicker. You don't have to fork out money for every school fundraiser and you don't have to worry about school bullying and peer pressure. Also you can travel outside school holidays when flights are cheaper. lol
For me I need the sanity of having a few hours to myself everyday. My kids go to school and I happily wave them off every morning.
I am not sure if there is a homeschool organisation in nz where mums can do the tutoring together one day a week. I know a lady in the states who started one up as a business and it was very successful.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 10:44am |
I love the idea of it but don't know if I personally could do it. In saying that if school wasn't working out I wouldn't hesistate to pull my kids out and homeschool. I think if you have the patience totally go for.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 10:48am |
I couldn't do it, I haven't the patience and I love the hours when C is at school and I can spend time with just Ty
Her stepmum and dad homeschool their boys though
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 12:12pm |
I and my 2 brothers and my sister (4 of us my poor mother  ) were all homeschooled.
I found it absolutely wonderful and I was at least a year ahead of others my age when I did go to school at 11 1/2 (for life reasons I won't discuss here :D). Part of what made it so great is my mum would plan trips out and about for study. So we went to the northland Kauri forests when we were studying Kauri, went to a Kiwi place for that. Went to the beach to study waves, coastline etc.
My mum also went to great lengths to make sure we were socialized, inc arranging for me to play mini ball at a nearby school, and all the homeschooling families in the area would often collaborate doing paper-making or just having a picnic etc.
However, theres no way I'm homeschooling any of my own children as I don't feel I'm anywhere near organized or disciplined enough!
In saying that I had a really good experience being homeschooled, I did meet other families that were only doing it in name only and let their kids get away with blue murder and didn't really teach them anything, I met a 6 almost 7 yr old who could not read or write, not even her own name, so yeah depends hugely on the mum or dad doing the homeschooling.
And my mum is awesome :D (I'm not biased at all, can you tell?)
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 1:01pm |
I met a lady when nannying and her husband was very rich. She homeschooled all her kids and they would study things like the pyramids and then go and actually see them! Crazy, what a life huh.
Not very useful but she was a very interesting lady and the kids were lovely. I've met a few homeschooled families over the years and maybe my one criticism is that the kids often seem very grown up and sensible. You gotta be able to be kids and laugh at farts etc!
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 1:29pm |
Lol very true Crafty1.
This is going to sound like I'm tooting my own horn. But I think in this situation I need to honk loud and proud lol
I'm reasonably confident the kids will be homeschooled for their secondary years. If we have the $/room/facilities we'll try and consider it earlier.
I just feel like we could do a better job than the public school system. It's not the teachers at all but rather a numbers game.And education is the family business / kinda natural to us.
We will have the freedom to educate our children in a way in which they learn most, we can provide the balance each individual needs to grow and develop and feel good. The opportunities for field trips are endless, and it frees up time for family trips etc too.
I was speaking to one 15yr old homeschooler who loves it. He feels confident with any social group he's in from litties to adults thanks to the experiences he's had offered. He spends 3 hours a morning on normal school day stuff, and spends the afternoons teaching himself engineering.
We'd outsource Music, a second language and Swimming to some local tutors lol, we know our limits! Aside from that hubby and I have the curriculum covered, we're a bit chalk and cheese.
DD grabs an idea and runs with it. She isn't two yet but by playing with letter writing on paper, in sand, and often with her porridge, she's got a few of her letters sorted. Without prompting she verbally spells her name, only missing one or two letters at the moment. It seems she's a natural learner if that makes sense?
I'm pretty firm on basic structure for balance, so there will be learning time, and time when the kids are elsewhere so I could just chill out.
But then I don't want them to be ridiculed, treated differently, or looked at funny just because we chose to teach them ourselves.
It's a hard decision.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 2:07pm |
It certainly helps get kids get ahead - I have cousins that have been home schooled..... They are SUPER bright its scarey
but in saying that My Aunty & Uncle didnt make sure they were properly so they have no idea in social occasions (its embarassing!)
You sound like you're pretty well planned which is great - you can only but try!
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 2:27pm |
I think from what you have said Flake,that you SHOULD homeschool, it sounds like its made for you and I think you will regret it if you don't.
If people look at you and your kids funny because its something they wouldn't do, that is their problem not yours
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 2:34pm |
Lol thanks Kelly
The other thing that really stuck with me when talking to this 15 year old, is that he can recognize that his is free from peer pressure and 'current' pop culture to decide who he wants to be and to really work on it - at 15. That's a mighty wise thing for him to be saying, and such a blessing for a young person.
But on the flipside, these kids may grow to resent it and feel left out / isolated etc. They can work on joing clubs and what not but an hour a day doesn't match six. But six hours with other people can be hard work when you need to think! However that's what work is like.
Thank you everyone for letting me voice myself and engaging in conversation
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 4:19pm |
I think that more needs to be made known about what Homeschooling involves, what the advantages are etc. I don't know much about it and I would hate to admit it but might not consider employing someone who has been homeschooled because I know nothing about it and would wonder at what type of social interaction they have had. And yes, that is ignorance on my behalf but my perception of homeschooling is kids who didn't fit the schooling system and would therefore make me wonder if they would fit into the working 'system'.
Just MY perception (outdated probably) and I really should learn more about it..but then I'm not in a position to hire anyone so probably just as well.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 4:22pm |
I totally understand what you mean, I was exactly the same before I looked into it more. The semi relevent flipside I've found of that is homeschoolers who say university has been easier on them then their peers, because they are used to grabbing a topic they love and running with it - ie independent research and intrinsic motivation is more natural. If they can convey that to their employers they may be okay.
For the record, I absolutely have nothing at all against parents who's kids go to public school etc, but we can't afford private schooling and I'm just exploring other options that may work for our family.
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 4:37pm |
Flake wrote:
Lol thanks Kelly
But on the flipside, these kids may grow to resent it and feel left out / isolated etc.
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You know what ? so might my kids ...that can be like any teenager...cross that bridge if and when you come to it
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Posted: 04 November 2010 at 9:35pm |
Hmm on the University and resentment topic, As having been homeschooled but not through highschool just primary, I'm probably more resentful, if thats the right word, that my parents did send me to school, where I learnt rather quickly that I had no need to extend myself, that school was ridiculously easy, and by university I had lost most of the self-motivation I had learnt homeschooling.
Flake you sound very capable and have everything well thought out. You are definitely the sort of person who should be homeschooling their children because of the amount of thought you have put into it, in my opinion anyway.
What annoys me is those who go, well school is too expensive I will just keep them home, but don't teach their kids anything ><
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Posted: 05 November 2010 at 7:34am |
Thanks for this topic. we are planning on homeschooling our kids (our oldest is 2 at the mo) - hubby was fully h/s and I was fully schooled, so we have experienced both worlds! I've been looking at various curriculums versus writing my own....what have you found regarding that, Flake?
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Posted: 05 November 2010 at 8:42am |
Lol I found that I have a very keen MIL and hubby who want to help develop our own.  I was keen on following one, but through ignorance and for security. Apparently ACE can be a bit of a bore, and that's one of the more common ones in NZ. I think we'll develop our own based on the one used in primary schools anyway.
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