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    Posted: 16 December 2010 at 5:21am
A friend of mine brought up this topic since o have a little boy and asked whether I was going to do this or not. It never crossed my mind. Wouldlove to hear sone thoughts

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IMO really really against it, no need to go cutting bits off that little boys were born with ! It never crossed my mind either, I dont really think there are any pros to be honest, unless of course there was some medical reason where it was a necessity




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IMO - Pro's
It can reduce your chances of picking up HIV (not as much of a problem in NZ as in the countries where they're recommending it for that reason, but still a pro)
It keeps things easier to clean (my cousin, an ambulance officer, says he's seen so many dirty smelly old men that he'd get his kids done now).
Some people do it for religeous reasons (Jews believe that God has commanded them to, some Christians have similar beliefs)

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I didn't think it was really necessary - HIV isn't a huge issue in NZ, and safe sex is well-taught and most people can afford condoms! Most men are onto-it enough to keep themselves clean, I figure we can teach him when he's a kid and if he lets things drop that far when he's older circumcision will be the last of his worries.
I pretty much took the 'if it aint broke, why fix it' stance. It's an operation, with some risks, and the pros weren't enough to convince me it was worth it.
Also, kids can be cruel - I reckon most little boys now days won't be circumcised, so without a good reason why make Jacob look 'different'.


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Can see absolutely no point to it. Why would you chop something off your little boy? The only time I would consider it acceptable is if he is having any medical issues (which some boys do).
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Originally posted by clover clover wrote:

Can see absolutely no point to it. Why would you chop something off your little boy?


Well, there are reasons, otherwise no-one would. They just might not be reasons you or I feel were particularly convincing.

I agree with the medical thing, I wouldn't hesitate if he needed it for medical reasons.

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I agree totally why do it. My friend said it is cleaner and just got me thinking but I couldn't put my son through an op

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Having a boy, following with interest!

Not my experience, but my ex is circumcised and ne was never teased about it - i remember one occasion my (drunken) male flatmates asking to see because they were curious
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I would never want to put my son through the pain of it, which is why my mum decided to not get my youngest brother done as it broke her heart seeing my two others bro's get it done.

My DH hasnt been done and hes had no problems! Its there for a reason IMO.

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Went through the medical circumcision route recently with my oldest, he was in the 1% of males who end up NEEDING it done for medical reasons (his was closing over, making it hard and painful to pee) but when he was born, I really didnt see the need to put him through that pain.

If this one is a boy then I still wont get it done, most doctors dont agree with it these days either. 1% is a small number, and its not hereditary, just completely random.
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There aren't that many docs around who do them these days without medical or religious reasons.

Just think that most boys don't get it done now so you boy may end up being the odd one out
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This is also a subject i am interested in. My DH his father and his grandfather have all ended up needing to have it done in later life

When i found out that i was having a boy i was immediately interested in finding out more info so talked to MW who told me to talk to Doc who pretty much fobbed me off so now im still as clueless as i first was!

I dont want to do it unnecessarily but i also dont want my boy to have to go through the pain of getting it done later when it hurts them SO much more!
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My Dp was circumsised , as was all his brothers (4 boys in total ) , My Dp is very against it , he beleives it should be a choice and is actually quite bitter about the fact he was forced to get it done as a baby .

i was just reading that 55%-65% of all  baby boys born in the united states each year are circumsised , i am shocked at this . Its most common in the north central region .

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There are pros to circumcision?

The ONLY time i see it as acceptable, is if your child has a medical requirement for one.

I can understand some people wanting to have it done for religious reasons, but I still think it is wrong.

Why on earth would someone want to chop off a part of their child's body for no good reason?

Would you want to circumcise your daughter as well?
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I personally would not get my boy circumsised.

Why put a child through unnessary pain if it was not needed? IMO

But I also have no problems with anyone who chooses to do it. Clearly they have their reasons and have thought about it.


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America is bascially the only country in the world that does circumcision. I would never do it to my child, why cut off a perfectly good piece of skin that is actually protecting your boys penis, just cause you can? People say they do it for religion, but acutally they didnt used to cut the whole thing off, they just nicked the foreskin, and it was left on. Here is a link to a very good site that is very anti circumcisions- they have lots of info.

http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/are-you-fully-informed.html

The one thing that i find very interesting is that is kills up to 80% of the sensation in the glands and so when boys grow up into men they dont feel as much so tend to have to be rougher during sex to get more feeling- and then it affects the girls cause there is more abrasion and less lubrication IYKWIM?

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dont know how someone can make an imformed choice when you guys are only showing 1 side.

I myself dont care either way.

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It shoud NEVER be done unless medically required.
Please do your research on this .

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I dont have kids yet, and have never put much thought into circumcision. And to be honest I still dont have an opinion either way.

But I have been following this thread with interest and it seems like people are either for or against it, each with their own valid reasons.

I personally feel that it is a parents individual choice, and like many things, as long as it is truly informed, then no one should judge them for that.

Now I am sure some would disagree with me here...so dont bite...but compared to a lot of things people can choose or not choose when it comes to their children, circumcision seems pretty harmless.

Of course there is the argument that 80% of sensation is lost (which as a biologist seems very high and I wonder just how they came to that conclusion), but according to whom? If you have been circumcised then you dont know any better, and does this mean that all men who are circumcised dont enjoy sex as much. In my experience it doesnt seem to make a difference!

There are a lot more harmful things a parent can do to their child, including 'choosing' not to immunise and relying on herd immunity to protect their child. Or ignoring their children, beating their children, etc...the list could go on.

So for those of you considering this, speak to a medical professional, get some medically sound advice (and avoid some of the google sites that quote percentages and dont tell you how they came to that figure!) and then make a informed decision you are happy with.
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Originally posted by RachelBerry RachelBerry wrote:

There are pros to circumcision?

The ONLY time i see it as acceptable, is if your child has a medical requirement for one.

I can understand some people wanting to have it done for religious reasons, but I still think it is wrong.

Why on earth would someone want to chop off a part of their child's body for no good reason?

Would you want to circumcise your daughter as well?


Thankyou.

I am still in discussions with my doctor as he sugeested to get my son done for medical reasons and I don't want to.
DH is done and I hate it.
Its not cleaner you can teach a boy to clean himself as he gets older. That is just one of the pethetic excuses to go chopping off perfectly fine bits of little boys.

Spicey don't do it. Its horrible. I've watched a you tube film of it being done to an 8 day old.

Here's a good link 1


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Circumcision, male or female, in my opinion is mutilation and unless it's needed for real medical reasons, not uniformed notions of cleanliness, then it should be illegal. No parent should have the right to remove part of a childs body. And medical prevention is a ridiculous reason, if that was valid then they would remove everyone's appendix as a precaution as well because those can cause a problem in a small percentage of people.


Choosing not to immunise isn't done because the parents are relying on herd immunity . That is only what uniformed pro vaxxers think, so you need to get your facts straight on a few things kiwkit!

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