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MummyFreckle
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Topic: Smokers handling Babies? Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:13am |
Hi - there is probably an element of first time mummy paranoia here, but I am wondering how to manage smokers around the baby once he arrives. We are strictly a non-smoking household, but my step-father, brother and SIL all smoke - they are always very considerate and sit outside on the deck, but I am worried about them cuddling and handling the baby after they have been smoking. I know that the chemicals linger on their clothes for a long time after they have had their cigarettes.....but dont want to come across as being too paranoid or bolshy about it.
I have also had a "talk" with my mum about the baby travelling in their car as my step-father smokes in the car, and I just dont want to expose his little lungs to all those nasties. I have asthma so am also extra vigilant about him developing this at some stage!!
Has anyone else had to deal with a similar situation - and how did you manage the conversations?
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:20am |
Good question SimSam. I'll be keen to hear peoples responses to this one too.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:30am |
I deal with it everyday & get over it- just wash my hands & brush my teeth. I know its on my clothes & hair & dont do it in my home or car
People should respect your opinions & ideas tho
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:37am |
My dad smokes, he always does it outside and when he cuddles Daniel he takes off his jacket/sweatshirt so at least the clothes underneath have been less exposed to all the smoke.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:46am |
kebakat - did you ask him to do that or is it something he has just done himself?
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:48am |
Actually mum told him to lol. If we had of asked him he would have though as I had asthma quite bad as a kid
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:53am |
I am kind of hoping that my mum will be the same......but its hard...my step-father is in his 70's and kind of stuck in his ways a bit, so I feel uncomfortable having those sorts of conversations with him. Also he smokes in their house, but not when I am there, but the smell lingers a far bit - should I be worried about that do you think?
am i just being too paranoid?
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 11:55am |
Maybe have a chat with your mum and get her to work on him without letting him know that you have discussed it with her??
I wouldn't worry too much about their house, it's not like you are living in the house and if he doesn't smoke inside when you are there at least she won't be breathing in lots of smoke.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 12:03pm |
I dont think you are too paranoid. And I know I am going to step on some parents toes here right now but this is my opinion and you dont have to have the same one and this is what I did with my child.
My mother is a heavy smoker so I grew up totally anti smoking. I never smoked before. Hubby tried once and is seriously anti smoking as well. If we go to someone elses home that smoke while I was pregnant I just left the house if they were smoking and usually didnt stay too long. Their house their rules.
In my own home they knew to go smoke outside and not to come back until they are totally finished.
Once baby arrived everyone knew that while she was that small if you are a smoker dont even come close to her or hold her at all. It stays in the clothes. They breath it in and there has been studies that link this to cot deaths. So didnt care if it was fact or not. I wasnt taking the chance.
My mother only found out about my daughter at 9 months of age (a long story) and I told her straight out if she smokes she smokes outside (in my dads house) and when she comes in to change all her clothes and wash her hands. I got her so far as to wash her hands ect but she soon realise I was keeping McKayla away from her and started making other changes.
Now that she is a bit bigger I keep her away from people that smoke. Wont let her drive at all with someone that smokes. Smokers are welcome in my house but they smoke outside and generally people dont try and pick her up as she isnt that small anymore.
I dont ask people outright if they are smokers but if I smell it then I just put McKayla in the bath afterwards.
Just make rules simple for everyone. And I dont think that you are paranoid. You are entitled to your own opinion.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 12:17pm |
Good on ya for sticking to your rules SMoody. My MIL smokes a bit and we don't get on well enough for me to be able to have a good chat about it. DH has hinted for her to stop or it will limit how much of her grandson she sees. She's getting better and only smoked in the garage of her home but it would be great if she would just stop.
It might mean that she is around for longer to appreciate her grandchildren too !
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 12:47pm |
My dad smokes. We don't let him hold Noah after having a smoke - my mum was the one that told him that though. We go over there most Sundays for lunch so dad makes sure that he hasn't had a smoke and is freshly showered just before our arrival and has his cuddles with Noah then. It works pretty well. I wouldn't let anyone hold him if I could smell cigarettes on them though but luckily we don't really know many smokers. Good luck.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:01pm |
I'm more relaxed about it. My dad smokes (quite a bit) and mum smokes (very little) and there is no way I'm stopping them from holding Gina. They will always wash their hands beforehand and, when they smoke while visiting us, they go outside but that's how far my rules go. She never rides in their car so that's not a problem.
If you let them have a short cuddle, surely that will be OK. I mean how much of the 'fumes' would stick to the clothes really? Plus I find it a struggle to get dad & FIL to actually hold her - they almost seem afraid they'll break her!
I'd say when you talk to them just be honest and lay your facts/feelings straight - just explain how you feel and why; and what you would like them to do. I'm sure (if they are reasonable) they'll be OK with it. Good luck!
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:15pm |
Me and Hubby have a background in asthma and bronchitis so I have stayed a non-smoker in fear that Olivia will flare up with something awful.
My bestest mummy friend is a smoker and she is always giving Olivia cuddles, she is what I would call a contentious smoker and takes it outside and refuses to smoke around her own child.
I must admit that as a smoker I do know that by being a non-smoker and having a smoke free home, that I am offering O the absolute best possible scenario. And that if issues come from outside my jurisdiction (e.g great Aunty Mariel who smokes cigars everywhere but in my house) then I have done all I can to ensure she is safe. Maybe her own defenses that I have been helping build by not doing the smoking thin,g will win over all of the bad stuff that she could ever be exposed to.
As for traveling in the car I would put my foot down if it meant that much to me. Alas I am sure anyone I know would understand that I would be full of wrath and life endangering rage, if they ever enclosed my child in their smoke ridden car and lit up (so no one does).
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:22pm |
my mum smokes and lots of our friends too. I remember when gabriel was a baby telling someone they couldnt hold if they had a smoke first, cuddles before thank you. My mum wont smoke in the house when me or the kids are there (her house i mean) or her car if she has the kids. she knows how i feel. Now they are older i am not so grrr about it all tho.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:36pm |
Wow SimSam, I could have written your post - I have the same concerns about our wee one and smokers.. and I have asthma too.
It's interesting to read everyone's responses so far and I'm be interested to read more thoughts as well.. how would smokers feel about being spoken to about concerns?
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:42pm |
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well see that is tough what they think - IMO.
They choose to smoke and i dont know any smoker who isnt aware of how bad it is so they couldnt object to a tiny baby with no choices not being subjected to smoke.
i think you just have to lay down some rules. I have some friends and the mums rules were everybody washed their hands before handling the baby and so everyone did... and if people dont want to follow your rules then they miss out. If they think you are paranoid or being a "silly mummy" then tought for them. YOU ARE THE MUM!
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 1:54pm |
Surely if they smoke and are visiting you in your own home, they can go without for that whole visit and then have one when they are leaving? Seems like common courtesy to me.
I think you definitely have to make it very clear that your home is non smoking, and if they are that desparate for one, they have to outside, and won't be able to handle baby afterwards.
Your house your rules.
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 4:38pm |
Im a smoker myself and so is my partner, i practically cut out all smoke during my pregnancy and when my son was born everyone knew the rule! If I smelt smoke on someone or knew that they smoked I would politly ask them to wash thier hands before touching him. At my house we had a special smoking jumper... a really dense ski polar fleece jumper....not much got through that and it was xtra large so if anyone who came over didnt have an extra layer of clothing to put on and take of then I would give them that! My partner and I were extreemly strict about the way we smoked, used the jumper...ALWAYS. Never smoked near open doors of the house, always brushed our teeth, washed our hands and face before handeling our own child. In the end we ended up smoking considerably less because it was such a hassle to do so! But as you can see that you are definatly NOT too paranoid! THe choices we make should never be pushed onto our children!
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 4:45pm |
Im an ex-smoker. my best friends sister visited her while i was there and my friend explained that smoking at all before picking up the baby was a big no-no and she told me the rules before i got my hands on the baby. I never for one minute thought she was being over-protective, and plus, id have a heck of an arguement if i tried to defend myself and tell her that smoking is harmless :)
There is also nothing worse than picking up a baby and the baby smelling of smoke. Its just horrible and wrong. stick to your guns :)
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Posted: 04 September 2007 at 4:47pm |
When we had our kids my Dh spoke to his family and told them that if they wanted to come visit they had to have a wash and put on clean clothes before they came to visit, if they wanted a cuddle.
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