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FionaS
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Topic: Toddler Tears Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:01pm |
Calling all wise parents of toddlers...What is the best way to manage the following type of situation:-
We are walking around inside. I'm holding Elle's hand and we come to some stairs. I have a pile of things in the other hand so decide to see if Elle can step up with only 1 hand of support. Before even attempting it she does a big, hold the breath cry, leans forward and puts her head on the next step and sobs and sobs. I put my pile down and offer her the other hand but she is so busy crying that she won't take it. The tears continue. Do I:
1. Take her other hand and continue with the walk as though nothing has happened (crying will continue for a few more minutes)
2. Walk away unti she calms herself...last time I walked away for 2mins and then had a screaming baby for the following 25mins despite attempting every type of distraction. I'm guessing this is not an option for us.
3. Make a big deal and pick her up and cuddle her...she will struggle and cry more but eventually calm.
4. Other....?
The same thing happens if we are walking and I let go of her hand and stand her against some furnature (e.g. if I have to do something other than walk around the house!  ). I generally just keep going with whatever we are doing as though nothing as happened as I assume that by do so I'm ignoring the tantrum without ignoring her. We've been doing that for a few months now but the frequency of these episodes is increasing. My girl is so strong willed and determined which will be fabulous when she is a teenager but I need to learn now to deal with it in the here and now. Things such as the above happen many times per day and I want to make sure I deal with them in the right way.
Sometimes you can only but laugh!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:11pm |
i would say to her, elle i am just going to ....whatever it is you are going to do and then do it and if she gets upset when you come back say whats the matter, mummy told you what she was doing. i think so long as you communicate to her then you have done your part, cuase you cant do it all all the time!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:41pm |
You could offer her alternatives: e.g. Mummy can't carry you right now; would you like to walk up or shall I come back for you in a minute?
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:55pm |
Good ideas. I do talk to her about things but never really thought about explaining more detail like that! She is always fine if I tell her I'm going to the toilet so I guess providing she understands it could work!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 5:02pm |
Hey Fiona
I think gant and busymum have some reslly good advice. Thats we we do and if Jack still has a tantrum I would genreally leave him to it, as long as i had explained what i was doing and what his options were. If he cries and I can't understand what he wants I'll get down on his level and say where are your words Jack point to what you want. We generally get there after a few points and then I say the word as few times so he understands the word.
She can probably understand a lot more than you think but whether or not she likes it is a different story
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:22pm |
FionaS wrote:
Good ideas. I do talk to her about things but never really thought about explaining more detail like that! She is always fine if I tell her I'm going to the toilet so I guess providing she understands it could work! |
Maybe you could just pretend to be going to the toilet all the time  Mind you, mine followed me in there today
Seriously tho, it's a tough one. Coz like you say, if you leave her she gets so upset that it takes ages for her to calm down. The question is, if you are consistent with it, will she eventually get the message and either do things herself or wait for you to finish what you're doing and help her, or will she just get more and more stressed out and cry longer/harder every time and be impossible to settle? Hard to say coz stubborness is a bugger like that, my Maya will sit on her bedroom floor and scream for an hour about not wanting to tidy it, then when she does eventually do it it takes about 5 minutes, so I sometimes think it would be quicker and easier for me to just do the damn thing myself.
I like everyone else's suggestions about explaining it to Elle step by step tho, she seems to be quite observant and intuitive so I reckon she might get the idea.
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:34pm |
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:41pm |
I'm starting to think the same thing about the gremlins, I mean they've been moving a little for months, but now they are moving 24-7!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:55pm |
FionaS wrote:
Sometimes it hard to know if the tears are a tantrum or something wrong. E.g. at breakfast time we eat together. I give her a few mouthfuls then have one for myself. However, when I take mine...she gets really upset and then won't eat hers...she just bashes the spoon and cries and cries.
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ahhh, the not sharing stage... both my boys used to be very happy to share with me then all of a sudden one day they werent. If i take a bite of anything of theirs a tanty ensues. that is the 3 yr old and the grumpy 2 yr old. or dinner for example - one eats all his sausge the other only the pasta then they want more of what they have eaten so if i then give it them from their bothers plate they get upset, and i know they werent goint to eat it.
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:57pm |
Does that sharing thing count if you are only eating from your own plate though? We have separate bowls (I don't eat soggy weet-bix.....ewwwww)
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:00pm |
How on EARTH are we going to manage the flight to Rarotonga in 3 weeks time! Elle won't sit still at all at the moment without a lot of wriggling and a very loud fuss, particularly not on our knees, so a 3 hour and 50min flight + the waiting time at either end is going to be.....well, challenging! Better start a new thread about travel tips I think.
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:07pm |
FionaS wrote:
Does that sharing thing count if you are only eating from your own plate though? We have separate bowls (I don't eat soggy weet-bix.....ewwwww) |
that could be more they want to feed themselves and she may percieve it as you taking it away from her... perhaps time to let her feed her self, messy i know but gotta be done eventually.
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:17pm |
Could be although she is fine as long as I only focus on her while feeding her. Have tried letting her feed herself but she just throws the spoon away LOL.
I wish I could spend the day inside the mind of a 1 year old! It would help a lot!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:28pm |
no it wouldnt - you'd spend all day getting upset!!!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:35pm |
Hehe..true!
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:56pm |
Could you start doing things with her for about 10 minutes at a time, sitting in one place doing magna doodle or reading a story etc... in preparation for the plane trip? Gradually extend the time as she gets ok with it?
It's almost like she wants you to keep on feeding her at breakfast. Do you usually give in if she keeps a tanty going for a while? Hmmm perhaps you could try dishing you both your breakfast, don't give her a mouthful at all until you have finished yours. when she gets upset, just say "I'm going to have my breakfast and then I'll help you with yours" and let her try. Sit on an angle from her instead of directly opposite or within arms reach. I think you are going to have to be very, very consistent and regular with her.
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Posted: 09 September 2007 at 9:36am |
I tend to wait for my breakfast until she has finished hers...the is the best way to avoid the tears.
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Posted: 09 September 2007 at 9:12pm |
have you tried letting her feed you? Jack will pretty much eat anything if I let him feed it to me first.
Jack still hasn't slowed down
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Posted: 10 September 2007 at 6:31pm |
We get this a lot  tho with all different situations...
Miss has a habit of dropping her head against the floor (as in a world-is-ending kind of way) when it's a tanty / frustration thing (as opposed to pain / fear / etc) so it makes it a lot easier to 'read' her.
But generally, I do try to explain everything to her - and I honestly believe (from her reactions etc) that she understands around 90% of it, and she does better for me doing so. Sometimes she'll still get frustrated and/or p'ed off that she's not getting her way  but that's the breaks, and she needs to learn that she won't always get her way. I generally leave her - usually for a minute or two - then come back, and get right in her face / at her level and say something like "I know you're upset but we're not doing [whatever] now. I'm happy to play with you [or whatever] if you're quiet, but I will not listen to this." Sometimes she gets it, sometimes tanty continues. When it continues she often gets put in her cot (with toys, blankies, dummy, etc) and left. The crying may continue (altho often it ends quite suddenly) and meantime I'm not getting more and more aggitated at her. I don't call it 'time-out' as in the punishment type, but it is a type of cooling-off time, for both of us  Often times she's actually tired and will nap, albeit usually just a catnap, but it can do wonders.
ETA - I personally don't like ignoring without explanation - I worry it could be seen as withdrawl of love but without her making the connection to the behavior.
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Posted: 10 September 2007 at 7:24pm |
Thats pretty much what I have always done too Kiwi. I put Han on her bed more as time for both of us to settle down insead of exploding!
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