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sunnyhoney
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Topic: To Vaccinate or Not? Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:04pm |
Did you vaccinate your baby/babies or not? Why?
What about the meningiccocal vaccination...I'm a bit worried about all the stories of bad reactions I've heard about. What are your thoughts?
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:08pm |
Yes, we vaccinated. But I did delay some of them, and didn't give the meningitis ones with the other vaccines, like they try to do now.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:09pm |
Brenna reacted to her 1st 2 rounds of immz (6 weeks and 3 months) and those both included the menzB one. I'm not sure if it was that or the others that made her react and even though it was awful and scary, I'd do it again as I think the illnesses are so bad (some can be deadly) that it was worth it. The only difference I think I might do is not rush into getting it done bang on 6 weeks
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:22pm |
yep i did well relly my mum did as i cried in the coner (i,m a wimp) and james was a little sore the next day but i would do it again its better then him getting sick from some of these horrable things
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:22pm |
We got all the immunisations done on schedule. I felt so bad when DD had three injections in one go, but we didn't have any reactions really. She had a bit of a temp for the first two rounds, then has been pretty good (if a little grumpy - understandable) for the others.
Several of my friends have delayed the MenzB ones for their kids, and all has gone fine for them too.
I felt a little unsure about the immunisations and confused as what to do, but DH was adamant and as he was so definite about doing it I decided to trust him and go with it. We talked to both the practice nurse and doctor at our family GP office and asked a lot of questions.
I have to admit to not researching it HEAPS, I was overwhelmed by all the different arguements and sources of information. But I am happy with the decision we made.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:29pm |
We didn't do any of them on schedule and didn't get any of the MenzB...
It's all a personal decision. Do some reading and go with what you feel.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:32pm |
We had the 2 standard ones done. Haven't done menzb yet and we still aren't sure about it. I'm very glad that I hadn't got it done though as Daniel reacts very badly to the hib-hepb one.. we have to sit around at the docs for 45mins when he gets them done. But at least he doesn't have to deal with menzb as well.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:32pm |
I was given so much research etc when I had Hannah (my mum is anti) that I got overwhelmed and we eventually decided to immunise her when she was 10mos. I found that most of the research we had was quite old and also that our doctor was happy to talk through any of our concerns. I decided to trust him really.
Briona was very unsettled as a baby so I delayed hers as well, cause I didn't want unsettled+unsettled lol. Later we would find out that she had silent reflux. So we started her at 5mos.
Kryssi was our first baby to be on schedule lol and by this point MenzB had been introduced. I must admit to being sceptical of MenzB because it still seems so 'new'. So none of our girls have had MenzB but they are up to date with all the others.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 8:59pm |
Briahna got hers when she was exactly 6 weeks. She was fine. She was just a wee bit more sleepy than usual and slept longer which i didnt really mind
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:01pm |
We have decided not to immunise and we also didn't allow him to have the Vit K injection. We did a lot of research and looked at the arguments on both sides. We are confident that we have made the right decision and our personal believe is that the immunisation are damaging and do not actually prevent the diseases.
That statement is probably going to cause some uproar but it is based on the extensive research that we did. My gp was happy for us not to immunise, but if you choose not to they have to tell the government you are not going ahead with it and why and apparently it can cause problems with some childcare which I don't get cos if the immunisations work surely other kids couldn't catch anything off my kid, but I digress, legally they cannot refuse to take your child if not immunised.
There is a support group for parent who don't immunise but I cannot remember the name of them. I can find out for you if you do decide not to go ahead or if you want more info.
Really it is a very personal choice and I do not want to force my opinions of it on anyone, so I would just say that make sure you research it fully you can only make an informed decision if you look at all the evidence for and against.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:02pm |
we live in auckland, and south east auckland so there was never any question for us of not vaccinating....we chose to do it and to do it all and on time per schedule....
we had no reactions...just soreness after the second round ones. Had a squeal when she rolled on it...but owuld rather that than meningitis!!!!!!!
ive seen literature on both - and been involved in a court case where both sides well presented...which helped me make decision too.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:03pm |
jake was delayed as we weren't in the country - he has a wicked TB scar from japan though - then he got them done at one - he actually saw the nurse that did them in Pak n save and screamed. he hates her. No reaction apart from a swollen site that wasn't painful.
Taine had all onschedule and was fine. didn't even cry during the first two lots. weird kid. I found the heel prick to be nastier
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:15pm |
We are here. Yes, I read the reserch and my opinion is that the benefits FAR outweigh the risks and,my opinion, once again, the non vacc. kids don't get sick cos most kids are vaccinated. (my opinion, though)
It is totally personal choice and a very "sticky" subject as some people get quite heat up about it.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:15pm |
I did Andrew on the schedule that he had and then the MenZb when it was introduced.
Josh however started with normal schedule (without MenZb) and then had the MenZb once he turned 5 months old. My reason for that was not having 3 jabs at one time and he only has to have 3 MenZb jabs.
Have a read of things and don't let your practise nurse push you into them if you don't want to have them done. Mine tried to make me get Josh's MenZb done when he was 6 weeks old but I had already made my mind up and read the stuff about it.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 9:38pm |
Bombshell wrote:
ive seen literature on both - and been involved in a court case where both sides well presented...which helped me make decision too. |
I think that is key to making a decision about imms as there is alot of info out there about for and against and a lot of it is really baised for both sides and you never realy get the whole picture. Getting the useful unbiased info is the best way to make and informed decision about your baby. Talk to your practice nurse and gp for infor on both sdie and will they be able to give you some info on where to go for this. As I said there is some very biased info out there for for and against.
BS you are really lucky you had access to that information.
IMO tho I done the whole complete schedule from 6wks but being a practice nurse and seeing one baby with whooping cough and another with suspected meningitis it wasnt a hard decision to make.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 10:00pm |
GPs get paid for each child immunised, I would question how impartial they are. But definately do look at both sides just try to steer clear of government info it is written by the pharmaceutical companies and is propoganda not research. Also when you look at stats you need to know what they are based on. Some pharmacuetical companies will quote stats of children that have died from a certain illness, i.e measles, but they don't tell you how many of those deaths were children who had a) been immunised b) had other immune affecting illnesses.
I would also look at research from more than one country, we looked at NZ, OZ the US, Canada, the UK, European and Japanese research.
And just as you should steer clear or government/pharmacuetical research you should also steer clear of looking at the really pro anti-immunisation people as you get the opposite problem that they use the stats to bend it all the other way.
Oh and I don't think that Spencer won't get ill (I hope he won't but it is a risk we have accounted for) I was just saying that if he is ill he wouldn't be able to pass on to an immunised child, so I don't understand why some childcare centres have a problem with taking a child who isn't immunised. I also don't see what business it is of the governments whether we choose to immunise our child or not, but they make a song and dance about it at the doctors at all his visits telling me they have to record that we are not doing it and why.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 10:08pm |
mummy_becks wrote:
Have a read of things and don't let your practise nurse push you into them if you don't want to have them done.
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Not all practice nurses are pushy tho, nice to find one who is there to support and inform with the most current and accurate information. I believed and worked as a practice nurse to support an informed decision for the health and welling of patients and their families.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 10:10pm |
Child care centres shouldn't make any issue over whether a child is immunised or not. They do however request to see the imms certificate in the back of your Well Child book. At one preschool we went to I asked them why that was (I felt checked up on lol!) and it's so that they can record who is and isn't immunised for whatever, so that if there is an outbreak they will send the un-immunised kids home immediately.
At our docs they have to ask us every time whether we will do MenzB or not but they have never asked us or recorded why - just yes/no.
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 10:19pm |
Doctors also get paid for each and everytime a sick baby comes in the door and the funding for immunsations wouldnt even be worth the amount they get for a sick bubba coming in so I assure you they would def not push imms for funding purposes as they dont with smoking cessation and smear test which GP get funded for per person along woth a whole range of other well people/family services
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Posted: 04 November 2007 at 11:09pm |
sunnyhoney a very sticky and sometimes touchy subject.
I believe that you have to do your own research and get both sides of the story so that you can make a properly informed choice.
busymum is right in that if there is an outbreak then any non- immunised child will be sent home first and they cant discriminate based on immunisations.
You have to be happy with your choice and be doing it for the right reasons, not just cause it is the done thing or because you dont like needles or whatever...
good luck with your decision.
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