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   aqua36  
   
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     Topic: Solids before Milk - routine??     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 2:17pm | 
 
 
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   Last week plunket line suggested I change my bubs routine to solids before her milk. So far she seems to be coping but is only drinking between 400-500 mls over the day, and the reccommended amount is 600mls.  Her day goes like this:  7am Breakfast - cereal, fruit and toast  8.30 Milk  9 am bed  10 am - wakes (a catnap child!) Give her a drink of water and snack in here  11-30 - 12 Lunch  1.30 bed (only sleeps an hour)  3pm Milk  Has a snack in here somewhere - depends on her  5.30 Dinner  7 pm Milk and bed 
  Plunket said not to give her milk in her mid day wake time but have been giving her a bottle to help build up milk amount 
  What routines do other people have? Needing to see if on the right track. Also any suggestions for sleeping longer during the day. Thanks 
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 2:23pm | 
 
 
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   Yep that routine sounds good to me! Although ours always has been more like 6.15am- 6.15pm!
 
 Kids sleeps vary heaps tho. Isla has never slept longer than 11 1/2-12 hrs at night, and 2 hrs in the day sounds good to me! But I think the recommneded is 1 1/2 hrs twice. No idea how to stretch it out tho. 
 
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 2:44pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   How old is your bubs?  
Ella's routine is 
Between 5-6am- milk and then back to sleep 7 wake up and b/fast  9 am milk and then sleeps until 10.30 10.30 small snack 12 lunch 1/1.30 milk  1.30-3 sleep 3 afternoon tea 5pm dinner 6.15 bath 6.30 milk, then story and in bed by 6.45 
don't know how many mls she is currently drinking as she is b/f but I have got told by plunket to drop a feed...but I can't see that happening in the near future.  
No ideas sorry how to extend the daytime sleeps, Ella seems to go through cycles where sometimes she will only sleep for 45 mins and other times will sleep up to 2 21/2 hrs (no rhyme or reason to it). 
 
  
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 2:57pm | 
 
 
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   That sounds almost exactly like Daniels routine apart from the night bedtime. When he was doing catnaps like that I put him to bed before 6:30pm. Now though I have extended out his naps to be from 10am-11:15 and 2:30-4pm
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 3:29pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   That sounds similar to our routine (we have just started solids before milk and its going well). Bella's routine is something like this...
 
6-6.30am Wake and breakfast
 7.30 - 8am Bottle (200mls)
 9am Nap
 10.30am Snack
 11.30am Lunch
 12.30pm Bottle (200mls)
 2-3pm Nap
 3-4ish Snack
 5.30pm Dinner
 6.30pm Bottle (200mls) and bed
 Lots of water offered throughout the day too (at every meal and snack time)
 She has put on over a kilo in the last month since the change, so I'm happy. As for the day sleeps, can't help you - Bella is a crap sleeper during the day, but sleeps 12 hours at night, so I guess there has to be a bit of give and take!!
 Hope that helps!    
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 4:17pm | 
 
 
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   Kate is eight months, she sleeps through the night so shouldn't worry about huh?
 
 Kate will only have 100-150 mls at any one milk feed.  Before we changed she was having 4 bottles of 150-180mls.  Has never drunk 200mls consistently, so I suppose I can't really expect her to do so now either.
 
 Thanks for sharing your routines - has put my mind to rest.
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 4:42pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   We are still giving Sam 4 bottles as she only drinks about 100-150ml per bottle.  She has between 500-600mls in total a day too.  
 Plunket has told us to drop a bottle, but I just nodded at them and then did what is best for Sam.
 It sounds like Kate's routine and intake is just fine to me   
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 6:19pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   Spencer's rough routine
 
7.30am Bottle (180-200ml)
 8.30am Breakfast
 10am bed
 11.30am awake
 12pm lunch
 1pm bottle (180-200ml)
 1.30pm bed
 4pm awake
 5pm Dinner
 6-7pm bottle and bed (180-200ml
 We only went down to 3 bottles last weekend up until then he was still having a bottle normally in the afternoon but sometimes in the morning depending on how the day was going.
 Also some days Spencer only has the afternoon nap and sometimes that nap doesn't last very long. Yesterday across the whole day he only had one nap of 1.5hrs, I just think that they are starting to not need the sleep as much everyday. He had more naps today and always naps well on Monday after swimming.   
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:42pm | 
 
 
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   Interesting to see everyones routines, I am still giving milk before solids but think i will change soon. Also nice to see that others have little darlings who don't have big sleeps during the day. Lachie is good at night and has 2 one hour sleeps a day. He wakes up happy so I have got over worrying about it. But I hope that he might stretch them out sometime - probably dreaming!
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:44pm | 
 
 
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   Jessica, you may find he starts stretching out one of the sleeps. This is what Daniel has done I think in prep for wanting 1 day sleep (eeeek!)
    
   
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     Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:46pm | 
 
 
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   I live in hope! I get the occassional longer one, like Mum2ella, said no rhyme or reason for it
    
   
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     Posted: 12 April 2008 at 1:39pm | 
 
 
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   The only thing I would suggest is that you give an extra bottle before the second nap, to get an extra 100mls into bubs.  Milk before bed is also a good sleep association at this age I find.
    
   
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     Posted: 13 April 2008 at 10:09pm | 
 
 
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   You could try doing milk before breakie for a while still.  Thats what I do (but more because its still a BF and I can do it in bed). If you do dinner slightly earlier that may get her to take more at the last feed too.  Or just add formula on the cereal and some other dairy products like yoghurt/cheese.  500-600mls is fine, so I wouldn't worry as long as its about 500mls in total. Jakes a little older but has had this routine for about a month or so: (very much like Spencers actually)
 
 6.45/7am - Up and breastfeed
 8am - Breakfast (Cereal, toast, fruit)
 9.45/10am - Morning Tea (Yoghurt / dairy food)
 10-12 - Nap
 12.30 Lunch (Meat/veges, dessert/fruit/mashed banana and avocado, curskets / crackers plus other finger food)
 2ish - Bottle
 2.30-3.30 - Nap
 3.30/4 - Afternoon Tea (rice crackers / apple juice "ice block" / bikkies / fruit)
 5pm - Dinner (Meat and veges, finger food etc)
 6.30 - bath
 6.45/7pm - Bottle and bed.
 
 He is also getting ready for one nap I think -- he was doing about 1.5 hours in the morning - but now its 2-2.5 hours most days .... and his afternoon nap can be as short as 20 mins in the car some days (but usually an hour if we're at home).
 
    
   
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     Posted: 14 April 2008 at 11:51am | 
 
 
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   Thanks for sharing your routines - it really helps to know we are pretty similair to other babies.  
    
   
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     Posted: 06 May 2008 at 7:41pm | 
 
 
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   T turns 8 months tomorrow, so I am thinking of how to attack the whole cutting out a bottle thing also. What have others done? 
    
   
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     Posted: 06 May 2008 at 7:49pm | 
 
 
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   I found that when I swapped to solids first Spencer just dropped the morning bottle and then a little while later when eating more at meals and snacks he dropped the afternoon one. I would just follow his cues and expect that sometimes that may still want extra bottles, like when they are ill and don't each as much solids etc.
    
   
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     Posted: 06 May 2008 at 7:52pm | 
 
 
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   he loves his milk! He goes crazy for it first thing in the morning, do you think it would be ok to try miss the 11oclock bottle? he doesnt seem to be particularly interested in that one and I could do an earlier lunch ?
    
   
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     Posted: 06 May 2008 at 8:24pm | 
 
 
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   Yeah try it and see, if you drop the bottle he may eat more solids for lunch and you can always offer him water at 11.
 I still give Spencer milk first thing in the morning, if I turned up without a bottle he would go mental, no way he would let me change his bum and stick him in his highchair for breakfast without having his bottle first!!!!
 Our routine is one of the ones above.
    
   
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     Posted: 06 May 2008 at 8:37pm | 
 
 
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   ok might try it and see how it goes, so better start snacks now too! such an ongoing process!
    
   
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     Posted: 07 May 2008 at 10:15am | 
 
 
  
   
   
   Kate used to go nuts for her bottle first thing in the morning as well so I was surprised when she wasn't too fazed not having it.  She'll even sit happily playing on the floor while I make her breakfast. 
I literally swapped everything aroung.  Sometimes I give her a bottle before her afternoon sleep, sometimes not it really depends on her cues..  I'm finding that she is eating more of her solids now as well.   
    
   
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