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    Posted: 23 April 2008 at 11:12am
I had a phone call this morning, and it's completely ruined my day, if not my week, if not my life!!

Bit of history: Back in July 2006 my MIL and StepFIL moved from the Mt, to Queenstown. It was the best day of my life. I'd had huge issues with MIL since having Rico (everything was sweet before then), she tried to change his name and generally interferred a lot once he was born and caused huge arguements between DH and I (cos he took her side). Anyway, they wanted us to rent their house out which suited us as our house was situated on a busy main road. They told us they would be gone for at least a year. Thankfully they've stayed away longer. But MIL has been saying how much she wants to move back to be with the kids and how much she misses them.

Today SFIL rings (I can this would've been MIL's idea as I get on with him really well). He says he has a proposition for me. He tells me how they are moving back up end of May and that they want renovate our place to accomodate them, so they take one of our bedrooms and the garage and they have a 1 brm unit. This house consists of 4 brms and an office. It's perfect for our family, no kids have to share rooms and our bedroom isn't taken over by an office. The would take the office and turn it into a room (it's a tiny office!) and take our linen cupboard and turn into an office.

I DON'T want this to happen. They tell us we'll still have our privacy, but then they can help us with the kids. HELLO!!! I've coped fine without them for the past 20 months! I do not want to live so close to my MIL as I KNOW she will be popping her head in EVERY DAY and the kids will want to be over in their part EVERY DAY. I love my privacy and don't want to live this CLOSE to anyone I know! They think everything will be sweet and have this idea that nothing will change. It WILL CHANGE BIG TIME! I find it sooo frustrating that they have disrupted our life like this and making us make that decision. They have another unit they own, rented out, but say due to interest rates they can't afford to kick the tenants out and move in themselves. I would rather move out of this house and find our OWN place they can't control, then have this happen.

Thing is, DH says he doesn't want to move this year as he has too many other things he has planned and things to focus on, and that would disrupt it. I say what the IL's want to do will disrupt our life more.

I HATE THIS - I really really do! I feel sick and anxious and if I do put my foot down and say no, what will they do? I hate having this pressure and hate that they've put us in this position. I've told them we'll move out, but they don't want us to do that. I'm saying this is MIL wanting her way of having control over us and the kids! She'll honestly be in our face 24/7, there will never be a break from her presence.

Also with all the reno's and taking the garage, we lose that, and our garage has the laundry in it and ALL DH's work gear for the business. WHERE IS ALL THAT GOING TO GO? Spray guns, materials, paint etc? There wiil be our 3 vehicles and their 2 vehicles outside, with no extra parking as it is (we live up the back of a long drive). SERIOUSLY, I do not think this is practical and I will lose my sanity.

WHAT DO I DO? I'm freaking out. I want to tell MIL how i feel, but know it won't sit well with her. DH is other things on his mind and doesn't want to talk about it till end of week.

ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Sooo sooo sorry for this rant!!
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BLARRDY BLARRDY INLAWS!!
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Oh NO...babe!
What a big nightmare.....
Kind of stuck between a rock and hard place aye?


I wouldnt handle living with my MIL.......It would last a month and that would be it....

I would go start looking for something else...
With renovations and having someone else there all the time and of course all using the one kitchen etc...could get incredibly tedious.

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Oh Italiah, that all sucks. I would feel the same, I Love my privacy and space. I get on well with my ILs but even then I would not want to basically live with them, MIL would drive me nuts. I would start thinking of finding somewhere else (what a pain!) and think things over until DH is readt to have a proper talk about it. What is it with males, I like to discuss things when they come up not days later!!! Can they not think fast enough or something.
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Oh my. I'd be up for homicide if I had to live that close to my MIL. I love her to pieces but the fact she is in England helps. I have no advice just loads of sympathy.
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Oh, how awful I would feel exactly the same at the prospect of my MIL and FIL living in the same house as us.

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I think you just need to tell DH exactly your thoughts. And hold him to the fact that he said you could talk about it at the end of the week. That works in your favour because you can collect your thoughts, get the anger out of the way so that when you do talk, hopefully it's calm and doesn't turn into an arguement!

I would reiterate it to your DH that you have your own family now and try to get him to see that it could possibly end in disaster. You've coped this long without their help, so why do they think you need it now? Think up all possible situations but be nice and respectful about it, because after all, it's his parents you're discussing and that's dangerous territory if you get agressive about it!

I don't envy the situation you're in but I can't help feeling that maybe your MIL may have had this idea even before they moved away?! It's a very sticky position to be in. Hopefully DH can see your reasons for not wanting this to happen. Best of luck and keep us updated!
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I feel ya Italiah.

My MIL is moving into the bedsit downstairs this Saturday and I'm already sick of her. Don't get me wrong, she's actually a really nice lady, and I agreed to let her move in after her husband died, but there are several things that have been getting on my nerves recently:

* She changes her mind regularly - seriously I don't know whether I'm coming or going half the time and now my DH has started doing the same.
* She and DH are often arguing atm.
* She swears around Michaela and says some pretty nasty things about some of her children and I feel really uncomfortable about it.
* Sometimes she ignores me completely. She had a heap of firewood, kindling and coal and I told her that we're not allowed to use coal in our woodburner "yeah I know" she responded "but there's not much so you might as well finish it off and then just don't buy anymore". I told her everytime she mentioned it (about 3 times) that I didn't want the coal and suggested that she give it to a friend or throw it out and then when we went to get the firewood on Saturday sure enough, she gave us the coal too and told us to use it up because "there's so little there there's no point throwing it out" *bangs head against brick wall*
* We had a huge clash when Michaela was a baby because she wanted to spit in her hair to make it curly (yes, I said spit!). DH and I constantly argued about it because he supported his mum saying that his hair is curly because his mum spat in it when he was a kid - I mean seriously, how on earth can a usually intelligent man become such a dumbass when it comes to supporting his mum. In the end I had to email him because we couldn't talk about it (turned into fight everytime we did) and I emailed him a study showing how many forms of bacteria are found in the human mouth. Anyway every now and then she makes little comments to Michaela that her hair would be nice and curly if I'd let her spit in it.
* She comes upstairs and does housework (not really a bad thing) and puts things where she wants them and folds things the way she wants them so I have to go around moving my wine glasses from the kitchen to the wine cupboard or refold my nappies so they can be used (for eg). Plus I feel guilty that she's doing my housework and I'm already getting the impression from some of DH's siblings that they think we've invited her to live with us for selfish reasons.
* She is useless with money and is constantly trying to encourage us to be the same. We are trying to stick to a tight budget at the moment and she turns up saying there's a sale on at a certain shop here have $50 to go and spend you can pay me back. I've had to put my foot down and say no, we don't need anything and I'm not spending money we don't have for the sake of spending it.
* DH keeps saying he wants to give up smoking but whenever his mum's around they spend their time outside smoking and when I gave up she was constantly offering me cigarettes (she thinks she's being nice but it's an awful thing to do to someone who's giving up smoking).
* She has so much junk and it's not all going to fit in the bedsit and I don't want to store it in our garage.

I'm so scared that she'll try and interfer in our parenting and in our marraige, I'm scared that I'm going to lose my evenings alone which I really enjoy, and that I'm going to have to share meal times, share my kitchen and eat stuff she's cooked. I'm worried that Michaela's quality time will suffer because MIL is grieving, her husband passed away from throat cancer at easter 1 month ago today and her first husband (my DH's dad) passed away from throat cancer at easter 27 years so she is going through a pretty awful time and I'm pleased we are in a position to help but I don't want to do so at the expense of my daughter.

I know most of these things do sound pretty irrational but all coupled together it's got me really worried about the move.

One thing I made sure was that there's a review date. We're living with her for 6 months and then deciding what to do going forward.

I'm going to make more of an effort to take Michaela out during the weekends for quality time if I feel suffocated at home.

I'm going to utilise the "I'm really tired" line if I want time to myself in the evening and I'll just go to my room after Michaela goes to bed and go to sleep.

Sorry for the thread jack Italiah - at least you now know you're not alone!!


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I bet going to France is looking even better!! Maybe it is a sign

I too love my privacy (especially when I have a pj day- I wouldnt want to be judged!) and wouldnt cope with any family living so close.
If it was me I would express my concerns in a nice and mature way by a letter/email. That way emotions wont esculate.
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Good idea Topsy. Even if you put the pros and cons down in writing for when you talk to your DH about it. Try and be unemotional about it and appeal to him in the sense that the family and business would be losing space etc.
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Awwhh Italiah, how horrible!!!!

There is no way i could live so close to the IL's. If i were in your position i would be looking for a new place now - you have to have your own privacy! I totaly think thats soo mean/rude of them to intrude, even though its their house. Do they work? I can imagine they would try and make you keep the kids noise down too...ggrrr

Also i dont know about your Hubby but my parnter would die before he had to give up his garage, where does he plan to put all his stuff?? in the kids room? or how about the lounge?..i dont think so.

If it were me i would have a talk with hubby tell him how i feel, and ring SFIL tell him you and hubby just dont think its practical, it will disrupt the kids too much with renovations and all- and making them share rooms you dont think its fair for them. Also tell them you will bring the kids round for a plays so they wont miss out on seeing them.

Awwh you poor thing! hope you find a solution soon 


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stick to your guns, if your not going to be happy then you need to say so , I could not do it either !!
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Wow that spitting thing is so incredibly disgusting! Just to make it curly???! WTF?! I can't believe your DH agreed with that. I hope it's just a bad, bad old wives tale.
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Originally posted by baalamb baalamb wrote:

Wow that spitting thing is so incredibly disgusting! Just to make it curly???! WTF?! I can't believe your DH agreed with that. I hope it's just a bad, bad old wives tale.


I don't think it's an old wives tale as I don't know of anyone else that's ever heard of it but sometimes she comes up with some real weird things.

I was told that if I held my newborn baby too much she'd get a bad back as her bones would be weak and deformed. I did hold her alot but there's no sign of any back problems. In hindsight I suspect Michaela had undiagnosed silent reflux and she had to be held alot - either that or left to scream constantly.

I can't think of any of the other things at the moment but some of them were really way out there. The trouble was that because she regularly came out with these things that I knew were complete bullocks when she did come up with pearls of wisdom I often ignored them until I had 2nd and 3rd opinions agreeing with her.

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I really don't know what I would do if I were you but I could not live with that arrangement. I would have to move. Disruption to DH's plans be damned. The comparitively small disruption of finding a new place and moving would be way better than the huge arguments that would ensue if I had to share my space with the inlaws.
Surely your DH can see your POV? Would he want to share his home with your family, all day every day and have them involved in every thing he was doing? And have to hear their opinion on every decision he made about the kids?
I really hope you can get this sorted, you might have to put your foot down and be the bad guy with the inlaws but your sanity, your relationship and protecting your kids from seeing you and their grandparents arguing is most important.
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Oh no Italiah.....I dont know what to say?
I get along with my MIL and lived with her for 3 years and then moved out just before Zaara was born (Thank God), as like your MIL, mine tried to tell me what to do, when to do, how to do etc....It drove me nut!! I had major fights with DH. As like your DH mine is a bit of a mummys boy!!

Any who what I am saying is. It is their house so you cant really tell them that they cant renovate the house. If they do live there with you, you are (guaranteed) have MIL on your face all the time and (Guaranteed) will have fights with your DH = Disaster!!

Therefore I suggest that you tell MIL and SFIL that even tho you can see where they are coming from, however it really wont suit you and your family at the mo. So the best thing will be to move out. Talk to DH and tell him that you feel strongly about this and regardless of what plans he has your marriage and sanity is more important so you need to move out.

Your DH has just got to see the big picture!!

I do hope things gets sorted out in your Fav hun!! I can sorta feel your agnger/frustration etc.




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Oh and MrsMojo my MIL has real weird ideas as well. She is a very traditional HINDU lady and she wanted to do some weird things to Zaara (dont wanna get in to that)....I was like back away lady or I sware I will have to kill you ....well I didnt actually say it but my expression said it all!!!

But she is much better now!! May be she finally realised that to Zaars is my first, I do know what I am doing!! LOL

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Italiah - show DH your top post.
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Originally posted by baalamb baalamb wrote:




I don't envy the situation you're in but I can't help feeling that maybe your MIL may have had this idea even before they moved away?!


OMG these were my thoughts exactly! She is a thinker and I know that getting us into her house was her plan so that she then could have that control and eventually she could move back in. Honestly, I feel like all she wants is MY children!!! We have been getting on great since she left town, and our friendship was being built up again, but right now I'm back to square one with how I feel about her! I can hardly hold back the tears at the moment, I hate this hanging over my head.
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OMG Italiah and MrsMojo... surely there's some programme for women in your situations - like witness protection, but DIL-protection or something?!?  Yeeouch.  I'd have gone spare.  And I like my MIL!  But I still wouldn't consider co-habitation unless it was for a reeeeally good reason, and I doubt she would too. 

Aw, Italiah - just shifting and renting from a normal (not related to you) landlord sounds like the best option by a long shot.  Maybe you need to point out to DH that renovating the house you're all living in is going to be a far greater disruption to his year than the 1 weekend it takes to shift house.  Far greater.  Immensely so!!  Heck, give me your e-mail and I'll put the fear of god into him about the realities of renovating with toddlers!  Ha ha.  Ah I don't want to make you feel worse, since you're already so very stressed about it all... but man, do I feel for you.  Good luck on coming to an agreement with your DH on what to do. 

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