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    Posted: 17 June 2008 at 10:59am
Ok so Driving to work this morning. In the corner of Neilsen Street is a old guy standing with small billboards re anti Abortion.......Got me thinking!

What are your thought about it?

Say the worse case scenario - girl gets raped, becomes pregnant, doesnt she have every right to abort it??

Or a drug addicted girl is pregnant and wants to do the right thing and abort because she knows that she wont stop, isnt that rhe right thing to do?

After all isnt it a woman's choice?

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i think it is deffinately a womans choice whether or not she keeps the baby, however i dont agree with women using an abortion as a form of contraception!

i would hate to be the child of a woman who was raped, i would be scared i would turn out like the biological father, JMHO

i think a woman would have to be incredibly strong to decide to abort a baby, and i know i could never do it, but thats just me
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I agree MyBelly I dont agree that this is a form of contraception. And I hate when I hear that some do use this for the purpose.

I also agree that I dont think I could ever do it myself.....

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Totally pro-choice. I don't believe anyone has the right to decide for any woman what to do with her body.
(unless excepting circumstances prevented the woman from making the decision herself)
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Yep, im pro choice as well...
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I am pro-choice up to a certain limit. I dont think I agree with late term abortions (unless the child will have no life and the moms life is in danger but not for reasons about being poor.)

There is abortions being done illegally in SA and another thing has been in the news. 24 weeks and above pregnant gets an induction basically and sometimes the child is born still alive but they dont do anything to help it ect and eventually the baby will die. THAT IS MURDER. Yes I know I am judging but I just cant see how this cant be murder.


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Yea, those are wrong as well as the partial birth abortions..
I agree with them only if this birth will be a risk to the mother hence. I cannot even imagine how it must be for these women to make that choice..
But if it is done just because... No, im sorry, that is wrong!
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Shirena - Sounds horrible!!

In 3rd world countries they dont have a choice rape or not girls always keep the baby....I think its horrible to see your child and be reminded of the day.....not that it is the baby's fault....but you know what I mean?!

But in a country like NZ i think woman should have their own say re the baby...but again "oops I did it again" is not a good enough reason to abort...just be careful when you have sex.


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Its not a form of contraception but its the womans choice.

 

But according to my ex its his choice too and i should have had an abortion.

 

I know people that havnt been in the right place to be having children and have had abortions, and i fully support their choices.



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Its a frustrating topic DPs Brothers GF of like 9 years told me she has had 8 abortions WTF??!!!!

There is no need for that! They have two beautiful girls which they take for granted because drugs are more important to them so I hate the fact that shes had Abortions but I think I would hate it more if she had of kept all those innocent children. Get ur tubes tied if you cant remember to take a pill everyday shesh!]

But I am pro choice when it comes to rape, young teen preg it should be up to the mother.

Sorry sore subject for me when I have seen so many paople I know use the abortion system as a contraceptive!!


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I feel that it should be the woman's choice - but then I also feel that people have the right to euthinasia (sp) if they want it, and if they are terminal/very old and sick... why make them carry on? It's just like putting a little kid through a horrible life, in fact they have NO chance of everything being magically ok, so it's worse!

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I agree with you on the euthenasia thing Alia

Well, i've had an abortion, and it wasnt for health reasons , either physical or mental, it was because I was young,stuffed up , and wasnt ready for a baby.
But when you have an abortion , you live with the consequences anyway .

Its not something im proud of , but it was the best decision for me, which is why i think you really need to walk in others shoes before you judge-and if you HAVE had an abortion, dont watch "abortion the silent scream " on youtube, cos thats just frustrating , reading all the views from men who will never go through it -and im sorry , but supporting your partner through one, is not the same.
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I agree as well I had an abortion at 15 because of a huge mistake.

I still dont agree with it and learnt my lesson, didnt carry on to have 8 more abortions. That is where the problem is!!! As I said Pro choice to a certain extent!

I still suffer with guilt but I know I did the righht thing for everyone at that point so it peaves me off how people can do it repeatedly and just laugh it off.

AGREED with the whole you tube thing as well

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I dont think any one was judging caitlynsmygirl..

Hundreds of women go through what you've been through and thousands of women wont ever have to make that desicion.. There are hundreds of us that support you in your desicion and hope to god that we will never have to face what you did..
Your right, supporting somone through one is not that same, but we do not have to experience one to empathise with what you may have felt.

Not that im saying we can ever know exactly how you felt and the emotions you went through...
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Originally posted by MelanieAndBree MelanieAndBree wrote:

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But according to my ex its his choice too and i should have had an abortion.



i do have to kinda say i can see the males point, im in no way criticizing or anything like that so please noone take offence, this is just what i think.

My stepdaughters mother stopped taking the pill to get pregnant when her and my DH were having issues, and they broke up then she came to him and said she was preg and he HAD to stay with her, he said he thought it would be best for them both to get an abortion and she agreed but then went to the clinic (a 6hr drive away which my DH drove her to and went in with) and she decided she would keep it and said to him "well since we are keeping it, i think we should try again"
She had no intention of getting an abortion and just wanted him to stay around, she had her daughter to keep her guy, it didnt work and i wouldnt give Iz back for anything, but i can see why guys sometimes feel ripped off when the whole "womans choice" comes about.

and like i said, i am in no way criticizing anyone on here so please dont be offended
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I think it should be a womens choice. If I got raped and got pregnant, I really dont know if I could keep the baby...

Then there are people like a girl mum works with, she has gotten pregnant 2 times by her boyfriend and had a abortion both times People like her piss me off cos she should have used protection, IMO she is a stupid b*itch

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Cadensmum, I don't know the full situation, but that's a bit harsh... (I mean if it was twice in 2-3 months I can kind of see your point of view) but contraception is never 100%, and they could just be really unlucky.

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Well 'm going to go against the majority here and say I *don't* agree that it's a woman's choice. I used to, but I'm getting leathery in my old age and I've decided I really don't agree with abortion at all. IMO, if you are responsible enough to open your legs, you are responsible enough to deal with the consequences. Yes, some women conceive as a result of rape and I *might* be OK with it under those circumstances (I say might coz i just don't know) but the number of babies conceived thru rape is miniscule compared to the number of abortions performed.

That said, I also DON'T believe that abortion should be illegal coz women who are desperate will go to any lengths to have an abortion and it's far better for their physical and emotional wellbeing to have it performed in a sterile, safe environment.

And I also don't criticise or condemn those who have chosen to have an abortion for whatever reason (except maybe a friend of my sisters who has had more than six), just coz I don't agree with it personally doesn't mean I have the right to push my beliefs on others.

Interestingly enough there is a guy at Maya's school who has a "Babies are made to be born" sticker on his car bumper and even tho I am definitely pro-life, it bugs me no end coz I don't think that sort of thing needs to be shoved in people's faces.
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there's definately some circumstances that abortions are called for. i don't know if i'd ever have one, but i think that's something you can't say for sure until you're in the situation.


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Emma, I agree with you 100%.

Nothing more to add.

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