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pepsi 
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:03pm |
Did anyone watch 60 minutes last night? Specifically the story called "Troubled Waters" which was about Infant drowning..
If you want to check it out, the video is up
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What was shown is one method which some people use to shock their child into learning to survive in the water. Basically, they dunk the child under the water and they learn over 8 weeks how to struggle on their own to the side of the pool, or else float on their back. The kids come up screaming and crying and it's pretty horrible to watch. I reckon it could be pretty traumatic and keep kids away from water altogether to be honest.
Personally I couldn't subject my kids to that to teach them to save themselves. I'd rather they have normal swimming lessons and be supervised around water. Would any of you consider the scare tactic method?
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:24pm |
 I couldn't do it, nor do I agree with it
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:35pm |
I thought it was quite interesting although I could never do that to my child.
I was in tears watching that whole story.
It did make me realise I need to get my girls into swimming, but I woult be using that scare tactic method!
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:37pm |
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No I was horrified by it. I'd be worried that it would make my kids scared of the water. I much preferred the other guy who taught swimming in a fun way.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:38pm |
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No way, swimming lessons and supervision around water...Is how my kids are going to learn to survive in the water.
Didn't watch it, but going off what you have said i dont think i will either.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:38pm |
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Nah I couldn't do that either. It seems really mean and the poor bubbas looked terrified. It was interesting though.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:40pm |
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I saw the beginning and had to turn it over, I cried as soon as I saw the wee babies struggling under the water.
I agree, its a pretty cruel way to teach your kids to survive and I'd much rather be vigilant than put them through that.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:44pm |
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It was pretty impressive how they were swimming but I know from my own experience of accidently being held under water when I was little that it put me off water and as a result I didnt learn to swim till I was 9. I am not a confident swimmer now. Thats why Tom goes to swimming lessons for fun and confidence. But I wouldnt ever want him out of my reach in the water.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 12:46pm |
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it was so so shocking!! what happened to good old swimming lessons and supervision! they are just setting up kids for a fear of water later on in life. the second way wasnt bad though
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 1:19pm |
hell no.
I'd rather stick next to her every time she's anywhere near water and teach her to swim in a way that doesnt leave her traumatised.
I wonder what kind of personality type you must have to be able to watch your child panic like that and be able to carry on? 
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 1:32pm |
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I can't see how people could put their child through this, they may teach their children to 'survive' , but they will also teach their children fear of the water. Being a water baby myself and spending soo much of my youth in the water I wouldn't subject my Child to that. I thought the other man who was teaching them children in a fun way was on the right track!
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 1:33pm |
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We had to change the channel, as we found it too disturbing to watch
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 1:51pm |
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no way that is too cruel and yeah would instill a fear of water into them...being in the water should be fun..I certainly wouldn't want my daughter to associate water with fear.
she does have swimming lessons and it is fun...they are taught they don't enter the pool until you say "ready 1 2 3"
I know was nervous the first time the swimming teacher submerged her and they dont do that till quite near the end of term.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 1:59pm |
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Aww yeah I've seen something similar, its amazing how they can get to the side of the pool but not something I would do with mine. Seeing your baby go under when your holding them is bad enough.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 2:14pm |
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I could see where they were coming from! And their approach did address the problem that the others don't - the issue of having a false sense of security around water... and it was in Aus, where backyard pools are far more common than here...
but that said, nah, I wouldn't take that approach with my kids - I loved the work the other guy was doing though. I was amazed watching the wee toddlers paddling away underwater holding their breath!
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:14pm |
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i found it a bit distressing too - also though they said that no kids they had taught this to had drowned, they didn't mention whether any of them had been in danger of drowning and managed to save themselves.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 3:33pm |
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i found it a bit distressing too - also though they said that no kids they had taught this to had drowned, they didn't mention whether any of them had been in danger of drowning and managed to save themselves. |
Very good point!
I missed most of it due to having to change the channel whenever I got too upset 
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 4:14pm |
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My gosh , I didnt see it ....and Im glad I didnt !
Im going to sound like Im bragging a lot here, but I have a point at the end ! I swear!
C started swimming at 6 months , by 1 she could float unattended , by 2 she could swim the length of a pool (or doggy paddle at least) by 3 and a half she could dive into the pool, swim in the deep end and she could do forwards and backwards rolls under the water , she is now 6 and can dive down to the bottom of my gran's 8ft deep pool, retrieve diving sticks and free style it to the other end.
She is very very confident , and very very good in the water, her school teacher couldnt believe how well she swam when she started school.
I have never taught her with the method of holding her under, if i had done that , Im quite certain she would have hated swimming , and water would have been something to fear, instead of something to understand and respect.
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 6:43pm |
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I wouldn't do it that way either.
Both said that no child they had taught had drowned, so as far as that goes both have been successful. So there appears to be no reason for the shock tactic's.
I also thought maybe parents that take there kids to lessons anyway are more aware of the dangers (just a thought).
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Posted: 02 December 2008 at 7:07pm |
Ididnt see it and im glad I didnt as it sounds pretty awful. I believe in good old lessons for my kids.
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