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    Posted: 05 December 2008 at 3:11pm
Has anyone tried to get into the police force before? How hard is it?
Iv been thinking about this alot lately and its becoming more and more interesting..

I know you have to do training up north or something, but what are the placements like for work after that, someone told me you dont get a choice where your going to work they send you to where there is an opening? Is that true?
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This is from my friend who is a new cop...

"u do training in porirua and its tough but not too hard but fun too. u get to choose where u go u have a first and second choice. How fast it takes does depend on what districts needs are, i chose palmy but i was waiting for over a year and when i changed to hamilton i was in within a week"
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there is a waiting list for CHCH but I do not know how long you would have to wait. First get intouch with the recruiting officer O800 newcops (i think thats it) Then when you have had an interview and filled out all the forms you have a test then you have to do 40 hours out with the officers (not sure which way round that goes) then you are put on the waiting list to go to college for approx 5 mths. Lots and lots of running lol.
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yip i got told lots and lots of running and press ups... a friend i know is quite fit and failed the test right at the end
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I "think" Pearls and Paws have looked into joining the police.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Training is in Porirua near Welly and its about 5 months full time.

You need to pass a few tests, mental and physical, have a swimming certificate and a first aid certificate and also do a defensive driving course before being accepted onto the training so its quite a long process.

You do get a choice of where you are stationed but only of the places that have vacancies.

DH has just started the process.
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Course is 19 wks in Porirua.
if you are serious about it now is probably best time to get involved as the former government has not fulfilled it's requirements and the current government has promised to boost numbers again.
If you know someone who is an officer you could ask to do a ride along to see what it is like. You have no idea how satisfying it is to nab a boy racer

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Hi :) I was about 1/2 way through the recruitment process before I got pregnant - so I'll come back and give you some more information as soon as I get some time to sit down and type a decent reply.

It can be tough, but it's not impossible - you just have to be very dedicated to getting fit and passing the other tests.
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Originally posted by McPloppy McPloppy wrote:

You have no idea how satisfying it is to nab a boy racer


I wont be out just to 'nab' boy racers. I was once upon a time a 'car enthusiest' and i hate how cops targeted young people. Yup fair enough if they are idiots..
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Yup my application is on hold too since my breakdown sadly...not too sure when I will revisit it.

As Pearls said it is tough but not impossible. You will have to be dedicated to getting very fit...ie you need to be able to do 20 full press ups minimum and by 20 really you need to do 30-40 for all the ones they will discount. Running is 2.4km in around 11-12mins depending on your age.

There are also general fitness tests to under go right near the end of the application...jumping fences, walking beams, dragging trailers and the such.

You are generally recruited to the area you applied from but you can apply for other areas. Christchurch does have a waitlist...I thought I heard at one point it was a year.

I don't know about police college being "not to hard" though...it is about 80% course work and it is blardy hard work...one friends husband commented that he doesn't understand how others have gone out partying and still studied!

You will be torn be work and family...be prepared for that. Her husband wasn't and also found that tough...family took a back seat for the 5 months...be prepared for that too.

I'm sure Pearls can fill in the other stuff I'm bound to have missed.

I would highly recommend going to a seminar...call 0800 NEW COPS and if poss see if you can wrangle a ride along. See the real side of policing...nothing like facing your first dead body on ride along then facing a ton of paper work...going out, busting a boy racer, chasing a burgler and back for more endless paper work to see what it really is like.

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I thought you were going to train to be a midwife, Kandice?
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I was.. and i want too, i just think well with all the bad stuff going on in NZ i want to do something to make a difference..
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I have nothing against car modification and car enthusiasm but i do object to people with pointlessly loud exhausts cruising up and down residantial streets. Ask anyone on Bealy ave or fitzgerald ave or around hagley park how much sleep they get on Friday or Sat night

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I'm not sure how it would be for ChCh but I know in Auckland they prefer you attend a recruitment seminar first, and there they will give you an initial application form to fill out (the paperwork begins!) where you need to disclose quite a bit of information so they can assess your suitability.

This includes any health problems, so if you have a history of asthma for example you will have to gain medical clearance from your GP (usually just written) and then clearance from HQ in Wellington once they have received the paperwork. Same goes for any eye trouble etc.

As others have mentioned you also need a defensive driving certificate, current first aid certificate, and a swimming certificate.

The swimming certificate (which I had just got, but I will have to resit when I have another go as they expire after a while) entails being able to do the following:

* Swimming 50m within 54 seconds (freestyle)
* Treading water for 5 mins (within a 1m diameter max)
* Duck diving 3m down to retrieve a heavy rubber brick and then swimming 10m on your back carrying the brick across your chest with 2 hands

The first physical test (or series of tasks) you need to prepare for and then sit is the PAT or Physical Appraisal Test and requires you to do the following:

* Running 2.4km in 12m 54s if you are under 20, or in 11m 50s if you are between 20-29 (for females)

* A standing vertical jump of 40cm - it is tricky to explain but you stand side on to a wall and stretch your arm up to get your standing height, and then need to jump from where you are to hit 40cm above that first mark.

* 20 or more 'correctly executed continuous press-ups' for women (there is a certain technique they are looking for)

* A grip strength test - for women they are looking for a combined total (two hands together but tested seperately) 52kg


Then there are the Academic and Problem Solving tests, which some info for can be found at www.newcops.co.nz There are also some books you can buy to help you study for these specific types of tests, although you can often also get them out from your local library.

There is also the PCT or the Physical Competency Test, which is a series of more focused physical tasks such as:

* A 200m run
* Pushing a trailer
* Walking along a raised beam
* Crawling under hurdles
* Scaling a wall and a wire fence
* Dragging a 74kg dummy
* Climbing through a window

There is a basic keyboard test but I reckon most people who have their own computer don't need to worry about that one too much!

Once all the tests are done, the paperwork is processed, your referees are contacted and you've gone through your interviews - then you go through SCOPE which is where you spend 40hrs on shift with the Police at your local station. You are given homework to do and will need to take notes etc that are passed back to your recruiting officer as well once SCOPE is complete.

THEN there is your final medical, and being placed in a 'wing' with a date for going down to Police College in Porirua for 19 weeks. You get most weekends off unless they need to run an assessment, and a weeks break in the middle of your training.

I definitely wouldn't say college 'isn't too hard' either as you need to really focus on both the academic and physical training during the day, make sure you study enough to pass all your assessments (of which there are a few), rest and eat well, and be ready to graduate!

I'm not really sure about waitlists, but the further south you go the longer they seem to get - as far as postings go that is. Whichever recruitment officer you get assigned will be able to give you a better idea about that kind of things.

Definitely ring 0800 NEW COPS to begin with and check out the link to the website that I put up earlier in my post. There is also a new and slightly more 'fun' website you can go to now at www.playscope.co.nz which has a few neat little games and challenges to go through.

There is no doubt about it in my mind, it is an intense process - and it will take a lot out of you, especially if you have a young family. I have spent a short amount of time working for the Police in a different kind of role, and that in itself had unique stresses etc that you need to be prepared for.

If you have any other questions or want any other info just give me a shout as I probably have it all lying around here somewhere!

Sorry about the novel too
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Hey Kandice my friend is going through the process at the moment and she said all the tests and everything will take her about a year to sort out and thats if everything goes to plan and then she will still have to wait for a place to come up. She works full time but has no partner or kids. Just from what she has said I think its pretty hard out to get there but not impossible if you really want it.
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One thing I found essential and I think Pearls will agree with me...is having a very supportive partner or family behind you. As Pearls said it is very intensive and will take a lot out of you just getting to recruitment let alone college so the more support you have the better!!

One comment my friend's made was that he found the relationship with his children changed with him not being around much during college as college had to come before family.

I also have to say, I'm not saying any of this to put you off but I think it is so important you really understand what you may need to be prepared for if you apply. However...also remember that if this is something you really want then you can do it. You wouldn't be the first mum to go to college leaving a young family behind temporarily and you won't be the last...it is very possible. It's just up to you how much you want it.

Hope this all helps.

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Originally posted by Paws Paws wrote:

One thing I found essential and I think Pearls will agree with me...is having a very supportive partner or family behind you.


I dont have a supportive partner at all.

And i only have my mum thats it

Thanks everyone for all your replies. Its amazing how knowledgable(sp) everyone is here!
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there was a woman who went to college at the same time as my DH who had two children and a highly unsupportive partner. She was not from the Wellington area and relied heavely on her mum and she did really well at college but did find it really hard being away from her kids.
Good luck with what you decide.
Dh went away while ds was five months, saw him maybe four times in the five months he was away and their relationship is fine, he has a really supportive partner

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I would never stop someone doing what they really wanted to do, so long as they had thought it through and where determinded to stick to it.

Thanks guys, i just guess i dont know what i want to do, i just cant decide, and feel like if i dont choose a career path soon, il run out of time.
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Don't worry Kandice - trust me when I say you have plenty of time! You really really really can't rush this kind of decision.

And yep I agree 100% with Paws - family support is really crucial when training for recruitment and then throughout college.
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