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    Posted: 15 November 2006 at 11:17am
The other day my friend took her 5 week old baby girl to the supermarket in her capsule. She sat the capsule on top of the trolley,...and while she was shopping noticed bubs didnt look right. She picked her up and hugged her and she seemed fine. Later when they were at the checkout she started to look horrible again,..then she went to pick her up again and she went blue and floppy. She was unresponsive and an off-duty policeman who was shopping did CPR on her and managed to revive her. She spent a night in hospital,..and they are using an apnea monitor for a month to make sure it doesnt happen again,..but the Dr's think it was cos of the angle the capsule was at in the trolley blocked her airway.
She asked me to let as many people as I can with babies know what happened,..to hopefully stop it happening to anyone else.
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Oh my gosh that is so scarey.
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That is scary! I have heard of babies having apnoea's in caspules tho...
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Yeah I had heard of it too,..but not to anyone I know. I used to babysit her boys(she has 4!)and both our baby girls were due on the same day.
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wow, that's so scary!! when mikey was little my mum always used to tell me not to let him sleep in the capsule unless we were on a long car trip or something and now i can see why! thank goodness her wee one's ok.

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scarey!! My BIL and his newborn little girl are coming for xmas, they were planning on just getting a cheap umbrella stroller to use while they are here (from aus), but i told hem they neede3d something that lay flat cause it can block the airways. I am pretty sure that is something mum2paris mentioned ages ago and I remembered.

Freaky though and how luckyt was she that the police officer was there. Makes me more determined to do an infant CPR course.
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OMG...How scary..thank God some one was there to help her out...man I would hate to think what could have happened!!

yah I never felt comfortable leaving Zaara in her capsule for long....never left her in her capsule for long!!

I remember when we travelled to wellington, Zaara was 4 months and I kept getting Atish to stop the car so that I can take her out of the capsule and walk around!!

I am glad bub is ok tho!!! Phewww

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man, how freaky. she was really lucky to have someone able to help her there. hubby always puts kayla like that on the trollies, i hate it personally doesnt seem safe so i get spooked. hope that your friends wee baby will be ok, and it doesnt happen again.
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When Caitlin was smaller we went shopping with her in the front pack didn't trust the baby seats on the trolley until she was bigger. Our capsule doesn't fit the trollies anyways.

I remember our Antenatal tutor going on about not having bubs in a car seat for any longer than you really have to (i.e. only whilst driving around) due to the position of the airways.

Your poor friend! That must have been aweful!
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Liz - KMart sell pretty cheap layback strollers that foldup almost as small as the umbrella ones.
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Liz try seeing if Plunket have an "infant CPR" video you can borrow. I am borrowing one off my m/w shortly as I have forgotten most of it.
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That's so scary!  I'd wondered why we're advised not to leave baby in the capsule longer than they're in the car for.  I really feel for your friend, Kellz - and what a miracle that Policeman was there.  Thanks for sharing the warning. 
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I had heard (I think from antenatal class) that u shouldnt leave bubs in capsule for long,..but the only reason I remember being told was to prevent spine problems. I had been planning to only use the capsule in the car, but since having Isla we usually find it easier to leave her in it when we get to the shops and just connect it to buggy,..instead of taking her out. We will be taking her out and lying her flat in the buggy from now on tho. I would rather have an awake baby,..than have anything happen to her because I left her in the capsule.

What do others do when taking baby by yourself to the supermarket?
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I hardly ever go any where with out hubby....and shooping is a family thing for us....Lol. Now that Zaara is a bit bigger she sits inside the trolley dangling her feet happily...untill then I would put her in those baby sits on the trolley baby sits(took my blanket to put on it)or take her buggy...but my little monkey hardly ever sits in one place for long...so we always end up carrying her...taking turns!!

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wow how scasry for your friend. Yep i think i didnmention it a while ago. i way always really aparnoid about that kinda thing, which is why they have that arrow pointing upward on the side of the handle on most capsules, cos that is the angle it needs to be to make sure baby's head is back enough. If baby does fall asleep and you really aren't wanting to get it out when you are visiting.. if it going to be for a short period of time make sure you tilt the capsule back so that baby's chin is clear of it's chest and prop the carseat up with rolled up towel or something to make sure it stays that way.

When i used to go to the supermarket when ayja was little, i used to put her in the front pack because the baby seats are still really upright, and the front pack meant i had free hands still to push the trolley and contend with Paris.

you can also get little snooze pillows that fit under their chin/around their head to help prop up their chinas to stop this sorta thing from happening.. i think most places have them but i know kmart sells them for about $11.

It's scary cos the littler they are the more risk.. when we send premmies home we recommend to parents not to even take them out in their carseat till they are much bigger, but know it's hard being stuck at home all the time too.



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I will just have to be more orgainsed and get everything I could possibly need from the supermarket when DH and I go together on Sundays! I will have to stop craving chocolate midweek, or text hubby to bring it home for me after work!
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oh, with the CPr.. make sure the video's up to date.. the ratios have just changed in the last few months.
In case anyone wants to know, it's now 2 breaths to 30 compressions, done with 2 fingers, in the middle of the chest between the nipples... continuing until the baby comes round or help arrives.
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Yer my capsule doesnt go in the trolley and neither does the one my friend got from plunket.

Im not one whos keen on putting Ella G in the capsule in the pram but thats coz of her back, i have a back problem and i want to avoid her having the same issues as me. I was only told not to leave them in there by a friend and that was due to their back not blocking their airways. Crazy! Maybe its the way they sit in there i have noticed if i dont buckle Ella in super tight while sitting up she will slide down a bit and look REALLY uncomfortable, maybe thats the bad possie? If they arent put in right its a bad posture for their airways?

PS i do buckle her in firm but sometimes more than others if that makes sense?
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our antenatal class midwife warned us of that...and also to watch how bubs is held as if neck tilts and blocks bubs can go off....she told us how a new mum was sitting with her bubs in her arms and child started going blue in front of her...head had nodded forward enough to block the airways...i wont forget that one in a while
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