Delaying 15 month injections

Yesterday I was talking to a friend who's a nurse & I think she does educating in childhood injections. I am not 100% sure so I'm going to get her to send me info.

What she has advised me with Cooper having such a issue with his body & reactions to foods. Is to delay the injections because he could end up as one of the statistics because his little body is so overloaded at the moment. She said to give it around 4-5 yo & she was telling me how Japanese do not vax their kids until they are 2yo because their bodys are not big enough to cope with them, they also don't have autism or the like as frequently as european nations do.

Cooper had a nasty reaction yesterday with my DH yelling down the phone at me what have you eaten today! Incidently it was what I'd eaten the night before, which I can't pick what he would have reacted to but Cooper had exploding diarrhea, welts & a bleeding bottom (skin) after me feeding him 20 mins before.

So at this stage I am going to delay til I have more concrete information. But would like others opinions on this.

Japanese DO vaccinate kids early - Jake has the TB scars to prove it - he got it done....6 months I think but would have to check his baby book. He had something else done...encipalitis I think - which we don't vaccinate for. not sure what else is on their list. as for not having high rates of autism...well, perhaps not diagnosed autism, but I taught in several schools there where children were called "normal" but it was clear they were autistic. But for some families in japan sautism is embarresing - admitting failure or somewhat.

Not sure how much help tyhat was....(me that is)

Edited by lizzle

I am no help but if I was in your shoes I would delay them too. I would agree with what the nurse was saying re the whole body already being loaded with enough stuff to deal with.

lizzle wrote: as for not having high rates of autism...well, perhaps not diagnosed autism, but I taught in several schools there where children were called "normal" but it was clear they were autistic. But for some families in japan sautism is embarresing - admitting failure or somewhat. )

Was just about to say the same thing... In many cultures special needs are underdiagnosed because of the shame it brings upon the family... I suspect that they have similar rates of autism. And it is merely a correlation that the onset of symptoms of ASD coincide with the the timing for the MMR - no causal relationship has been identified. In fact brains of children that present with autism have been shown to present differences prior to 15 months, although these typically aren't idenitified as it is the behavioural changes that alert the parents to difficulties and result in the ASD diagnosis and they aren't evident until around 18months +

Despite that I still think if ya wee one isn't well and is small for his age I would be inclined to wait a few months...

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I'm *probably* not going to get Clodagh's 15 month vaccinations done at all but then we haven't vaccinated her for anything at this stage...although of course I am constantly reassessing my decision on this with my GP's input etc. Luckily I have a 'mainstream' Dr who is pro- vaxxing but also open to different opinions and schedules (and other non vaxxing parents like myself).  What I may well do is have another major rethink after she does her egg challenge in hospital in a year...if her egg allergy has gone then it's a possibilty I guess that we will start vaccinating then. I agree with the others that you go with your gut feeling on what is best for your child. The older they get surely the stronger their immune systems are and better able to cope with *all* new thins in their systems?!

My little boy had his early and I believe that it overloaded his system - so I think you do right. Wait until he is totally well whether it be in 2 months or 2years.

I've delayed G's for similar reasons Kel - I don't want to overload her little body as she has enough to deal with as it is. She's still getting bronchiolitis about every 3 weeks on average so don't want to stress her system out any more.

I think it should be said that Japan does vaccinate some children early, but generally they seem to be much older when they are vaccinated. For example it is common for them to not receive their first dose of DTaP until they are 2+ years old. In saying that, 'early' for them is from 12 weeks instead of at birth like most every other country on the planet. They also tend to space theirs more and do single vaccines at a time instead of several at one visit; so while we do DTap-IPV, Hib-HepB and Prevenar for example all in one visit, they'd do DTap at one visit and Hib-HepB at another visit and Prevenar at yet another spaced at least 3 weeks apart. They have a higher vaccine uptake rate than NZ and most other countries, but they reckon that is more due to cultural reasons than the fact that it can be argued that they have more choices than say we do.

I'd delay too if it were me.

I'd delay Coops imms Kel. Def agree with overload.

I haven't done either of the boys officially (Jake had 1 DTap when he stood on a rusty nail last October) coz I think its too early and also coz of allergies.
I don't know that I believe imms *cause* autism but I wouldn't be suprised if it aggravated the condition of children already susceptible.

My little dot didnt have her first lot til she was about 9 months - Im sure if your babe isnt exposed to loads of people before hand, you can delay for as long as you see fit