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    Posted: 02 October 2007 at 9:15pm
Hi everyone,
i just gave birth to my son on friday 28th of september 2007 at 9.30pm,i have been breastfeeding ever since,im sort of not sure if im doing it right,they are rock hard at the moment which i know is normal but im finding it hard becouse my nipples are so sore all the time...
my midwife seems to think that he's latching on good and that theres no problem with that but its gettig to the stage now where i dread the feeding times,
it sounds mean it's just that they are so sore like as if there being pinched all the time,
could anyone out there please offer me some advice please as i really don't want to stop now as i've come this far..
thanks...x x x
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Hi! I swear by Lansinoh (spl?). I used it straight after every feed whether I was sore or not and you don't have to wipe it off before the next feed.

It is hard at this early stage, but hang in there as it does get easier! Maybe try feeding in a different position as this can ease a bit of the pain (ask your midwife to show you some other positions)

Hope this helps!
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Try expressing off a bit if they get too rock hard... I think it's quite hard for babe to latch properly if they are engorged.

Sounds like you are a milk machine!!
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I agree with nikki, if you are feeling sore from being sooooo full express some milk, you could store some for when you are coming up to a growth spurt, just incase you would like a break or maybe someone else to give baby a feed.
Also as rubydooby said if you have cracked nipples the lasinoh (also not sure of spelling, but it comes in a lavender tube) is fantastic.
Good luck, if you don't get any relief come back and ask more questions or ask your mw for more help
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man, 5 years ago i would have posted something exactly like what you wrote cmaine!
(except i didnt have a computer)

I HATED bf in the beginning, my nipples hurt so much, i didnt realised a baby can suck so hard! i used to dread feeding time and would sit there watching the clock willing it to hurry so i could say she at least fed for 20 mins( or 10, i cant remember, as i said it was 5 years ago)
I used the lanolin which helped, and i dont know if your using a pillow, but i always found that quite awkward and was a lot more confident doing it once i worked out how to hold my daughter and feed her with out it.
I can tell you that the sore nipples do stop hurting so much, in fact i woke up one morning with my 8 month old feeding herself from me, she crawled over to me in bed and lifted up my pyjama top, and i didnt even notice.
It does get easier, really, and yeah, id do what the other ladys have suggested and express and store your milk.

Oh and btw,congratulations on your baby!!
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Okay might repeat what other people are saying but here is some advice from me.

Lasinoh is totally great. I bought a big tube in SA and didnt even use all of it. You dont have to wipe it off before a feed but just check the tube to see what it says on there. (I know the one I had actually said not to wipe off) It really worked for me.

Other thing you can do it actually to give some sunlight to your breasts. 10 min a day if you can.

Express slightly with your hand some milk before letting bubs feed. It will be easier for them to latch. If you find it difficult to express a bit take a warm washcloth and put it on your breast 10 min before expressing a bit of milk.

When bubs is latched on the one breast let your other breast hang free. Take a towel and roll it up and leave it under that breast. That breast will leak a bit and help with your engorgement.

It takes about 6 weeks for your body to realise how much milk baby will need.

If you are serious about BFding try not to give formula during the first 6 weeks. Let your body sort itself out first with the demands ect.

Other thing you can try is to rather have a shower. If it is really sore express a little bit of milk but not too much. Remember the more you stimilate the more milk will get produced and you dont want to get into a vicious cycle here.

If it is really sore ask your midwive about ultra violet lights. Dont know if they do it here but in SA they do it to the woman if they are really sore and it seemed to have helped for them a lot.

Other thing that help is try to change babies position everytime you feed him. Dont feed him in the same position every time.

If you dont have Lasinoh use your own breastmilk. Just take a drop and put it over your whole nipple and aeroala (sp?) and let it dry naturally.

If you use breastpads make sure that they are not causing you more grief and more pain. If you use disposables try some cloth ones and vice versa.

Hope you come right and if you dont let us know and we can think of more stuff.



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Hi cmaine - welcome, and congrats on your new baby!  Breastfeeding is really difficult and hurts to begin with for most of us, so don't worry that you are doing something 'wrong', you're just learning it at the same time that baby is learning how to feed... it gets better and becomes much easier!  I found the first 4 weeks very difficult, but worth persevering through.  A cream called 'Purelan' is the same as Lanisoh.  It was a lifesaver for me!  You just put a wee tiny amount on each nipple after a feed (even better - rub a few drops of breasmilk on the nipple afterwards, let it dry, then rub the Purelan/Lanisoh on) and it helps them heal, and helps with the soreness. 

You can also get nipple shields from the baby shops and pharmacies - they look like tiny sombreros made of clear latex.  If it gets really sore because of cracks or injured nipples, you can put one of these on over the top of your breast, and baby suckles onto that.  They got me through a week or 2 when I couldn't have fed otherwise because of the pain.  Also, if you feel like your midwife is fresh out of advice but things don't yet seem right for baby's feeds, you can contact the La Leche League for some free advice.  Your midwife may have a contact name and number for them, and if she doesn't, Plunket should. 

And if you do express any milk and store it, remember it keeps in the fridge for only a couple of days, but can be frozen for about 3 months (maybe more - I might be wrong on that!).  Since baby is still so young, you mightn't want to introduce a bottle just yet (some babies figure out that the bottle is easier to get milk from than the breast, and start to prefer it before you're ready to wean them onto one), but freezing any extra milk in icecube trays works well!   

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Hi Cmaine, I cant really add to what the others are saying but I can just tell you that I was exactly the same and it does get better....then it can hurt again...then it gets better...then you find one boob is working well and you are annoyed with the other....then you change your mind and think the annoying boob is the better one.

Keep at it....IT DOES GET BETTER!!!
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Hi again everyone...
Thank you's all so much for the helpfull advice,today isnt any better for me and feels like its just gotten worse overnight..
i am on my way to go and purhase the lanisoh/purelan and also the nipple shields,but does anyone know how much these cost?
i have tried to express a little by hand but the pain seems so unbearable..
would anyone have a breastpump that they dont use anymore and be willing to give away or sell cheap to a desperate mother in need?
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A small tube of lansinoh is about $12 and nipple shields vary, but are about $10 from memory (you'll only need one). I found the small tube ample, lasted a few weeks and by then my nipples were all healed and I had the breastfeeding sussed!

Are you hand expressing correctly? And it may sound weird, but let your boobs get lots of airing and sunlight (might mean you have to walk around the house with them hanging out!) as that heals them nicely too. Good luck!


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Hand expressing shouldnt hurt at all! Whenever MWs at the hospital tried to hand express for me it always hurt cause they always pressed around the nipple area..

Below is a couple of links I found really quickly on google if you wanna check you are doing it right..
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You could call La Leache League, they may be able to give you a bit more time to get the latching etc sorted. I'm pretty sure they are free, ask them when you call up.

I second what SMoody said - don't express too much, just enough to soften the breast a little. You can go in a warm shower and if they are really full they will leak (or spray) on their own, and you should feel a lot more comfy after then. I wouldn't go for an express pump yet cause it will probably only boost your supply.

Make sure your nipple is going right to the back of the baby's mouth - it's hard to explain online, but that's usually the #1 cause for sore nipples.
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Just wondering if it is mastitis...? I don't know if I'm jumping the gun though as I've never had it.

And I think you'll find that it's just as much pain (if not worse) with a breast pump. Well, that's what I found anyway. The suction and pull of my nipple almost killed me. Hand expressing was much easier.

Try wearing no top as much as you can. I don't think I got dressed at all for the first couple of months. hehe
And yeah, purelan/lansinoh is brilliant. I think from memory it was $12 for a small tube, but I didn't ever use very much. And like SMoody said, rubbing breastmilk on them is also really good for your nipples.

Alsssooooo, panadol if you are really desperate. Take a tablet a bit before a feed and it might help dull some of the pain.
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Like all the others I have so been there and I know how painful it is. I agree to ring La Leche League because sometimes midwives don't give the best breastfeeding advice. Another thought is that maybe you guys have thrush? (your nipple and his mouth) We have it at the moment and breastfeeding is a bit painful but its really easy to clear up.

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did you buy the lansinoh? if not a have 1 or 2 sample tubes here that i can fastpost you? i only needed one sample tube for 6 weeks..
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I also wanted to add that it does get better, I had problems with my son, when he was the same age as yours (congrats by the way). It took me to about day 7 till things started to come right. Just keep feeding and eventually your nipples will come right.

I'm also wondering if you could have a blockage there, which may need antibiotics. Maybe ask your mw to refer you to a Lactation consultant.

With hand expressing, I always found it easier to do it in the shower, running my hand down my breast to my nipple till the milk came out. Also try a really hot flannel and put it over each breast - mainly for comfort and it might also help the milk flow.

Good luck and I'm sure things will come right for you very soon.
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I had quite a few infections, if you have a blocked duct it will feel like a really hard lump like a marble, if it gets infected you will get a red patch on the outside of the breast and it will be so painful it is untrue, you will also end up with flu like symtoms. If you think you have this get onto mw immediately to get antibiotics and in the mean time bra off and massage lumps when feeding/expressing (will hurt like hell but is neccesary).
Not sure if anyone else has already suggested this as didn't read all posts but leaving a bit of breastmilk on the nipples to air dry also helps with soreness and is free.

I also went through a stage of dreading feeds so don't feel bad about that.

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HI guys,
things are starting to look on the upside,the pain is still there but not as bad as yesterday,i have all of you's to thank as i was so desperate,i actually used just about every piece of advice that was posted...i actually have another question and becouse i don't see my midwife till tomorrow i am curious..

My mother purchased me some nipple shields yesterday and for the all the women who have used them you know the nipple part,well how the hell are your nipples supposed to fit in there?,theres no way in hell mine are even close to that big,so that leaves me with more room for concern,could it be that my nipples are to small?

well i look forward to hearing some more helpful advice...
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Hopefully some of the other moms can help you with the nipple shield. Just be carefull of not using it too much. Sometimes baby cant suck as efficient from those and then the milk doesnt get through to bubs. Which means you might end up worse with blogged ducts.(when milk doesnt flow from say one of your sides ect.) Dont know if I am explaination makes much sense.



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Haha cmaine, when i was breastfeeding and bought some i thought exactly the same thing!! But to be honest i didnt care, my nipples hurt so bad i still used the sheilds and it provided some relief..
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