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    Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:23am
I was reading on "Stuff", that J Lo is having a c-section as she doesn't want to go through the pain of childbirth! Get hard woman! I have done it twice with no pain relief, gees!

Then again, some woman aren't as tough as us kiwi chicks!
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seriously!!!    

after c/s x2, i'd give my right arm to actually push out a bubba!! (no offence to c/s mums)

i've always thought she was a silly tart anyway i hope she realises it maybe harder for her to get back into shape after a c/s

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Yep I've been fortunate enough to push out my 3 babies. Would do that anyday over having a C/S, even with the horrid pain of contractions. The pain is all part of it. I don't know why celebs are scared of the pain - HELLO - there is PAIN RELIEF!

I wonder too if it's part of knowing what day their baby will arrive so they can fit it around their lifestyle.
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Hmm natural process that woman have been doing for centuries or major abdominal surgery? I would say recovery from that kind of surgery is pretty darn painful anyway the silly mare. I reckon it has alot more to do with the lipo she'll be getting at the same time!

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I suppose so, but as vanessa said, takes longer to recover, then again she will have nannies, personal trainers etc.... so won't lift a finger! ha ha
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Heu Jennz, cold over in the UK?
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Soooooo cold It was -5 when I drove to the park today. It was midday by the time we left and the windscreen had re-frozen over while the car was sitting in the sun! Thank goodness for central heating!
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oooooooo i'd love to have a white xmas, just once

how does j-lo know it will hurt anyway!   my contractions weren't painful, not enough to need any sort of relief anyway....that said, i didn't get to experience the 'ring of fire' part though


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OMG I have had 2 natural births and while the second one hurt a bit I would still go through it again over the pain of recovering for abdominal surgery. I've only have minor abdo surgery and that still took time to recover.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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I'm not defending her but isnt she having twins?(not that you can't do that naturally?:)
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according to the Who Weekly she is lol!! Having twins I mean.



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So is Christina Aguleria (sp).

Honestly....wait until they experience the pain of a c-section!

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I heard Christina was having a c sections too for that reason....

I can comment on both as I have had both... 2x VB and 1x C section and my choice would be a VB birth. Yep it hurts and contractions aren't exactly enjoyable but its the 'after the baby is out' part I like best with a VB birth.

But not to insult anyone I don't think either is better than the other in needing one just my preference if i had the choice.
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I think they do it so that they can 'plan' baby around their schedule - and afterall with a c-sec, they won't have to worry about going overdue or getting stretchmarks! Didn't the saying go, "too posh to push" hehe!! I had a c-sec and also would love to have a VB, c-sec isn't 'easier' by any stretch of the imagination. Oh to be a celebrity, eh?!!


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Oooooooooooooo...the severe shakes from the spinal block... the morphine drip....the cathater (sp?)....the not being able to eat afterwards....the walking gingerly everwhere for a while....the 6 weeks of doing nothing...the attractive scar....if you're really lucky the infected wound...yeah, pure bliss. *snort*

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Hmm, after my horrific birth experience (which has pretty much put me off having another child as I don't want to go through THAT again), I might vote for the C-section. My best friend in the US had a C-section with her first and a VBAC with her second baby, and says if she does it again, she'll go for the C-section. She and I have both had complications from tearing during the births -- it's been almost two years since my daughter's birth and I'm still "not quite right" down below. So I can sort of see J-Lo's side of things. Maybe if I hadn't been so focused on sucking it up and somehow thinking I was being a hero by giving birth vaginally, my birth experience could have been a positive one instead of so awful that I'm terrified to do it again. Food for thought...

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Haha!
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Originally posted by Katherine Katherine wrote:

Hmm, after my horrific birth experience (which has pretty much put me off having another child as I don't want to go through THAT again), I might vote for the C-section. My best friend in the US had a C-section with her first and a VBAC with her second baby, and says if she does it again, she'll go for the C-section. She and I have both had complications from tearing during the births -- it's been almost two years since my daughter's birth and I'm still "not quite right" down below. So I can sort of see J-Lo's side of things. Maybe if I hadn't been so focused on sucking it up and somehow thinking I was being a hero by giving birth vaginally, my birth experience could have been a positive one instead of so awful that I'm terrified to do it again. Food for thought...



To be honest though, while it is a valid point and I wouldn't blame either of you for picking a c-section, you both have experience to go off...for all those celebs know they could have a dream 3 hour labour and pop bubs out and leave the hospital 2 hours later....

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Just a question but am I the only one that had a fantastic recovery from my c section and that was after a 27 hour labour with no drugs, then a failed ventouse, I was well keen for a c section when they told me I was up for one! I thought my c section was relatively easy and most people commented about how well I was so soon after and they were quite surprised?!

I went into pregnancy pretty fit though and with abs of steal (not that they are steal now, they are well covered being kept warm with a layer of FAT) maybe the tight abs helped my recovery??

I totally agree with Paws though that she could have a "dream" birth of only a couple of hours!
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Sure, but how many women ACTUALLY get the three-hour labour, pop the baby out with no trouble at all, then hop into the car and go home feeling amazing? We all hope for the "perfect" labour and birth, but the vast majority of us don't get it. I think that's why women quite often feel the need to share their birth stories -- it's a form of therapy, reliving all those moments and working through their feelings about them in order to become okay with the trauma that childbirth can impart, even if it's just a comparatively "small" amount of trauma, like not getting an epidural because there wasn't time, or pooping while pushing, or being able to feel the stitches going in when you were getting your tear stitched up because the local wore off. The word "perfect" is subjective too -- for some women, a perfect birth is letting nature take its course, having no pain relief and breastfeeding immediately, while for other women a perfect birth is anything that makes the pain go away, and forget about dignity. 

I remember at antenatal class feeling ashamed because I was the only pregnant woman out of the group of 10 who wanted an epidural, while everyone else envisioned water births, home births, and pain-relief-free birthing centre births. Guess what? I was the only person who didn't have pain relief during labour, while everyone else had varying forms of pain relief including epidurals, pethidine and even one C-section. What a silly cow I was -- I should have had the epidural in the parking lot like they did. 

We want women to feel like they can talk about their choices with regards to birth, and if J-Lo was on this message board, I wonder what she would say? Would she try to defend her decision, or would she slink off in shame? I wonder if there are any other mums-to-be planning elective C-sections who are lurking in this thread, afraid to post because here they don't want to be called naive or wimpy or against nature? Those are the mums I'm trying to speak up for, because it's not just celebrities who choose C-sections for non-medical reasons.

I'm not trying to be your mother and wag my finger at you, because everyone likes a good old celebrity bash now and again, including me. But spare a thought for the other real people who are hanging around here wanting to join in -- we have to respect their opinions as well, whether we agree with their choices or not.

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