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    Posted: 12 March 2006 at 10:00am
heres the scenario...

in mcdonalds having breakfast as a treat before doing the groceries, and in walks a lady carrying her very little baby. the baby looked only to be a couple of weeks old and wasnt swaddled just wearing a lttle outfit. the lady sat outside and there was a small breeze blowing. the blanket was on the table and the baby was crying. it looked like thery were there to show off their baby to some friends who turned up with flowers and they they held the baby, who was still crying (not screaming mind you.)

so here the thing, i went over there to fetch my 2 yr old who was wandering around and asked how old the baby was and got told 3 weeks tomorrow, i then suggested that maybe it was cold...

should i have minded my own business? i didnt think that mcd's was an appropriate place for a new born (what with all those yucky germs)but kept that opinion to myself (oh and my husband.)


(have posted this on another board also to get as much feedback as poss.)
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i would have dont the same thing i dont think mcd's is the rite place to bring a new born
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I think you were right in suggesting the blanket, but (even though I hate McDs and rarely ever go there) I don't think it is any worse than taking your child shopping or somewhere else, germs are everywhere. We took our daughter when she was 8 days old to a school play, I wonder what you think of that?

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I would of told them that it was cold and maybe baby would like a blanket and not just suggested it was cold. But agree with Meow, no worse than supermarket or anything in regards to germs.
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While I agree that McD's is not the greatest place to bring a newborn baby, had it been me at the very least I would have been indoors and not outdoors, and had the wee thing bundled up to its eyeballs ! You don't take tiny babies out like that *just* to show them off, if someone is desperate to meet them they will either come to you, or you go to them in a place like their own house.
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do u think she was a first time mum
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I agree the baby should have had a blanket etc but I know I would have been devestated if someone had of said that I shouldnt have a baby at Mcds or a stranger telling me what I should do with my baby. The first few weeks are pretty hard for a first timer anyway and you are very conscious of doing things wrong.
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Yeah that is so true Robyn. I was so scared of doing something wrong when I had Xanda that I packed up all my stuff on my first night home from hospital and went home to my mum. Stayed there for three weeks and hardly left the house or the farm.
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fairsk8, Ella used to have that same top Xanda is wearing in that photo, "I love Daddy" She had it in pink though, it was a Christmas present for daddy (well, not really lol) on her first Christmas. I just went through all of her clothes and have to get rid of heaps of them, including that top
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I agree for a first time mum it can be hard - this is coming from me - who hardly left the house, AT ALL. but, i think there is a big difference between well-meaning comments and ones that are nasty.. and Deb - yours seems like it was well meaning and not nasty or unreasonable. Even being the very self-conscious person that i am - receiving a comment like that wouldn't make me angry i don't think - maybe a little miffed that you had pointed out something i had possibly overlooked, but nothing more.

I disagree that most people would go to your house if they wanted to meet baby. sometimes it doesn't matter where you go you just wanna get out of the house and meet anyone ANYWHERE! And how many times have you possibly had just THE CUTEST outfit you wanted to put baby in to show them off, but know that by the time it's the right season, baby will have outgrown it, or whatever. So i can see how, being a new mum possibly - and very proud and eager to show off new baby in the cutest outfit - this mum could have overlooked that it was a little chilly.

I would probably have done the same thing as you Deb. Just possibly said how cold it was today, what a cute outfit the baby had, but how lucky she had a blanket with her!!
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Janine, what I meant to say that is if people really sincerely wanted to meet your newborn then I'm sure they wouldn't be adverse to dropping by for a visit so as not to put you out - but especially so if you are hesitant about going out places. I can also understand about the cute outfit thing though, I guess what I was trying to highlight was that if it was me in that situation I probably would have been "over prepared" and had bubs bundled up to its eyeballs LOL
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mcdees isn't that bad a place, i think supermarkets are probly way dirtier! but i don't think its that bad to say something if you think bubs is cold. like the others said, its all in the way you say it. i burst into tears after going to visit a friend up the road. she was staying with an older lady and the first thing she said was "this baby should have more clothes on!" i'd bundled her up so much cos it was winter, that when we got there she was too warm and i'd stripped her off a bit. she made me feel so incompetent.
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i see people who wearing jackets and hat ,gloves and there newborn have no hat on pi##s me off i would have said something i live in dunners so its cold here my mum was going to work and its snowing she sees a woman walking around with bubs in a front pack with no gloves on bubs hand and no hat poor wee things siomepeople r idots
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I feel the same - i get really angry when you go out and see mums and dads with the big expensive labels, and all that, bundled up - and their kids aren't wrapped up or babies have no hats, jackets, blankies, sometimes not even any socks etc - being very very mindful of the fact also though that once they are a little older than 3 weeks they are little people with minds of their own who often will not want to keep hats on, will think socks are perfectly good to pull off, eat and discard etc... - actually, Ayja is like that alot, and has been since day dot. i remember though when paris was tiny - i went to the bank with mum and the lady working there said to me "you know, you are the first person i have seen today who has a hat on their child" it made me feel great - and also astounded cos it was a shocking cold rainy day!
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I'm kinda with Robyn.
I'm sure you advice was very well meaning, and suggesting the blanket was a great idea (tactfully phrased to not be condescending).
I personally don't have a problem with taking a newborn to McDs, providing the mother wasn't stuffing fries down the babe's throat.

But yeah, she might have been miffed, but more because you were right than anything else! Atleast she might think twice before leaving the house next time?
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I was at the hospital having blood tests done on Thursday and the person taking blood told me I was a bad mother because Zac was cold!!! It was around 30 degrees outside and around 20 degrees in the hospital with the a/c on and Zac was not cold. He had a singlet, t-shirt, shorts and socks on and was quite happy smiling at everyone. I was so flabbergasted that I didn't say anything back to her. Then she didn't even put a plaster on properly so I had blood running down my arm.

I think if she had suggested Zac was cold instead of telling me I was a bad mother I would still of been offended.



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Kim - double ouch ! Unfortunately, housemate situation excluded, I'm not so good at keeping my tongue when people are outright stupid like that - would have said something equally nasty back to her
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I wouldnt have said anything to her. If i was her i probably would have been really offended too! But thats just me, she might have appreciated you saying something.

I dont think McDonalds is that bad. Unless the baby was licking the floor or something. Or all the toddlers were coming up and grabbing the baby.


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I probably wouldn't have said anyhing either, i would have just thought it! I am no very good at saying stuff to strangers - especially being a first time mum myself!!

LOL, when Joey was timy I HAD to have mcd's so we bundled him up and sat him on the table there in his capsule (he was asleep) so I could have a burger, how awful that must have looked!!!

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yep, alot of the time you DON't WANT to be at home - by the time the 2nd week is over you just want out of those 4 walls and anywhere will do (those 1st timers, who have not yet experienced this... beleive all the mummies when they say this!! you will love your baby, and possibly like being athome too, but will get to the point where even going to the supermarket to do the shopping might be the highlight of your week!!!) lololol
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