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May I ask why you are "concernedmum"

My daughter throws tantrums that last usually 4 hours, I have a 6yr old as well and am pregnant.
5 hours of tantrum is not easy and any advice is appreciated.
What fallen was suggesting was a way to snap her out of it I don't think the shower is anymore 'child abuse' than leaving them in their rooms to calm them selves down.
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i am "concernedmum" cause i think as mums we all have some concerns about some thing or another ... why are you "jjands"?

distraction, diversion, time out (for mums and/or kids), hugs, ask - tell - act, finding out the real problem, one on one time, ruling out medical problems .... all much nicer and acceptable ways of dealing with a tantruming child.

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I had to laugh at the shower idea! Very novel!
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concerned mum,
Please remember you also have days when things don't go right re: your post
I have failed as a mum!
I scream, i smack, i yell, i berate, i threaten, i swear, i call them names...and most days i dont like them or me. i dont want a third, didnt even want a second.


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arent you clever doing a search!!!

I'm not on trial or accusing you of anything. merely stated that to me dousing a 5 yr old in cold water fully clothed sounded like child abuse! is it not akin to throwing a child into a tub of cold water for soiling themselves... and if said child had an undiagnosed ear infection (for example) then the cold water of a shower would certainly not improve matters... only perhaps make them scared of showering!

if you choose to throw your child in a cold shower to stop them screaming that is your decision... i however dont agree with it.

tantruming children are not easy... nor is finding a method to deal with them...but once you do find it then it does become easier! I know!
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i disagree. My four year old has never had a tantrum where he has been unconsoliable as you have described. But if he did and I couldn't calm him down, then as a last resort I would do the shower thing. I don't think it is child abuse in the least. It won't cause irrepareable harm. it won't hurt them in any way. But it could be a way to calm them down quickly.
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I was merely passing on a suggestion on something that worked for me. My daughter never stayed under the water for longer than a couple of seconds, but it was always enough to snap her out of the tantrum she had wound herself up into.

I don't believe its in any way child abuse. But if you do, feel free to NOT try it.
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..my mum thinks that at times I should go into a cold shower myself......


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and I dont think it is child abuse either
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Concerned Mum,
So glad to hear that between the 14/12 and now you have found a full proof way of controlling your childrens tantrums. According to your posts.
I take it this no longer involves hitting them? Because after all that is actual child abuse unlike a cold shower.
So who are you really seeming as you created another account?
P.S I don't feel that you are very welcome on here....this is a place for suppor not crisitism.
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jjands... yes i have learnt a lot since december of 2007!

It was my opinion only... what are you getting so upset about it for? is it perhaps because you think it is abusive but do it anyway!?   do you want me to delete my comment so it cant offend you anymore? No one else seems upset by it or likens it to abuse, if you dont like my opinion then ignore it!

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* is very confused*

think I have to lie down


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everyone here is entitled to support free from criticism , parenting is a tough role, and this should be a place that people can freely vent their frustrations and fears etc that come with being a parent free from critiscism from other parents on the forum , a healthy debate is good, a slanging match is not .
That goes for EVERYONE on here -don't make me put you all in time out .


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You admitted you hit your children this is abuse cold showers are not. Hitting your children is ILLEGAL.
I only posted this topic because I wanted some advice not to have my head bitten off.
This really wrecks my time on the forums...
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I know what your saying Caitlynsmygirl and I agree like I said above was only looking for some advice and came away feeling like I had been critisised for something I didn't even suggest. Anyway long over this discussion
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whatever - i voiced my opinion plain and simple... and it wasnt even about anything you had said, it was about fallens suggestion. You jjands are the one who attacked me and got on the defensive... Maybe time to look in the mirror!
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LOL I'm just going to agree to disagree
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Originally posted by fallen fallen wrote:

I was merely passing on a suggestion on something that worked for me. My daughter never stayed under the water for longer than a couple of seconds, but it was always enough to snap her out of the tantrum she had wound herself up into.

I don't believe its in any way child abuse. But if you do, feel free to NOT try it.


funnily enough as a mother at my wits end with a 6yr old with ADHD, who is no longer alowd at any of her relatives including grandparents as she is so full on its tireing watching her she also gets so hyped up and frustrated that there is no consoling/calming/reasoning with her just hysteria
today i took her to the doctor & the doctor said . . . when she gets like that put her in the shower!! clothes and all ,as it is the best way to calm a child down quickly, (especially with s as the next step is usually a rage where she destroys anything she can get her hands on out of frustration) i kid you not thats what the doctor said!, and i thought what a dam good idea!!


edited to add :
havnt read all the posts only read half way down this page , so this post isnt to dig at anyone, its mearly stating my opinion,


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DD 10.5yrs
DS 6yrs
DS 11mths
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That must be really hard on you I hope the shower thing works
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lol thas funny catzkids that a doc would suggest it and here ohbaby is discussing it too...
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