New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Access arrangements when kid is sick
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Forum LockedAccess arrangements when kid is sick

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
lemongirl View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2009
Location: Auckland
Points: 562
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lemongirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Access arrangements when kid is sick
    Posted: 18 September 2009 at 2:35pm
Hi all I have a question for blended families.

What arrangements do you make when your kiddo is sick?

At present my partner's ex won't let him take care of his kiddo at our house and insists that he can only visit the child at her house when the child is sick

Normally I keep my mouth shut figuring his ex, his kid, his problem. But over the last 3 weeks the kiddo has only had 1/8 scheduled overnight visits.

So that's a lot of visits to the ex's house and on some occasions the child has been kept back as 'a precaution' rather than actual illness.

He hates the current arrangement, as the ex shouts and screams at him , the kiddo doesn't like much either with parental conflict and I'm starting to despise this arrangement as not only do I not get to spend time with my partner, I don't get to spend any time with the kiddo either.

My partner doesn't want to push the issue claiming some contact is better than nothing at all but I feel like this current situation is unsustainable.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
caliandjack View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 10 March 2007
Location: West Auckland
Points: 12487
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote caliandjack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 3:00pm
Surely if they're scheduled visits - then the kiddo should be with him regardless.

Depends on the nature of the illness I guess, but if its colds and usual winter ills, can't see the difference if kid is at your house or their mums.

Your partner has rights too.

My brother only gets to see his kids in the school holidays, and he'd be pretty upset if he couldn't get to see them.

[/url]

Angel June 2012
Back to Top
lisa85 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 September 2008
Location: Christchurch
Points: 2465
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lisa85 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 3:31pm
I agree that seems rather unfair. Sure if the child is really unwell and has told the mother that they want to stay at home rather than going to Dads I could understand but it sounds like shes playing games.

I'm not in this situation myself and am not %100 percent on the rules but I would assume he has every right to legally stand up and say this isn't working this is my child too and I want my rights as a father acknowledged.


TTC #3 since Jan 2010 - PCOS
MC April 2010
Back to Top
Mamma2N View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 15 February 2009
Points: 908
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mamma2N Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 3:37pm
My BIL has had many of the same issues in the past with his ex and child. Firstly, do they have any sort of custody agreement?? If so, stipulations would be made out in the agreement and both parties must abide by them.
If he doesn't have a formal agreement I would suggest he get one quick-smart. Much easier to deal with problems when things aren't privately arranged.
Very frustrating I could imagine.
Back to Top
lemongirl View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2009
Location: Auckland
Points: 562
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lemongirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 4:00pm
The annoying thing is they do have a custody agreement which stipulates that if they child is too sick to change homes then either party gets make up days.

But unfourtantely these agreements are very expensive and time consuming to get them actually enforced.

My partner spent thousands on legal correspondence with the ex after he finally switched off his phone off except during court-ordered time and one additional morning call to stop having the ex call repeatedly (I'm talking 4 times in 2 hours) and as early as 7 in the bloody morning.
Back to Top
FreeSpirit View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 23 November 2008
Points: 1256
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FreeSpirit Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 4:10pm
I'm playing the devil's advocate here - if he is having a child stay with him 8 nights out of 21 he is entitled to WFF tax credits and she will recieve less. If he is having a child 1 night out of 21 he is entitled to nothing, and the mother will recieve full payment.

But on my personal level, I don't think it's fair. He's missing out on so much, and unless the child is REALLY very very sick and confined to bed, there is no reason why he can't take care of a sniffle or cold or flu or broken leg at his house.
Back to Top
Millyz View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member


Joined: 21 January 2009
Location: Wellington
Points: 447
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Millyz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 4:16pm
I agree with Mamma2N - if there is an arrangement in place through the courts then legally the ex can't withhold the child. Obviously if the kiddo is really sick then you don't want to make them come over but if its just general sniffles etc then yep I think the ex is playing games.

We have an overnight arrangement with my DH's ex and if she started playing those games I think he'd probably have to call the cops and get the kids removed. Sounds really harsh but we've been through a lot of drama over the last couple of years!!!
Back to Top
Rachael21 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 January 1900
Location: New Zealand
Points: 4700
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rachael21 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 6:33pm
Man I'm the opposite LOL I send my kids to their father if they are sick I really enjoy my time off and I know how much they love going to his house. So yeah thats not cool I hate how so many people turn custody into ways to 'get' at their ex its so unfair on the kids.
Back to Top
lemongirl View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2009
Location: Auckland
Points: 562
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lemongirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 September 2009 at 7:42pm
Flutterby, neither of them would qualify for WFF as each of them earn way over the threshold.

Well after an evening of you 'better come around to the house now' DP's the ex has finally stormed the kid off to hosptial at 7pm on a friday night over a tummy bug. I sent DP off because if there was a problem, he'd never forgiven himself if she was sick enough to be admitted and he wasn't there.

My money is on her being sent home maybe after some IV fluids but chances are spending hours in a hosptial waiting room after hours are likely to far more damage than spending the night at our house.
Back to Top
queenb View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2008
Location: Papamoa
Points: 456
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote queenb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2009 at 7:10am
sounds like this is her way to have your DP at her beck and call. we are a blended family, and DH's ex used to pull all sorts of crap. I'm guessing she doesn't have a partner? So this is her way to pull the strings and have some control in YOUR relationship. If the kid isn't really sick, my suggestion is to call her bluff, and hope your DP can be strong, and just say, from now on I'm not going over to see kiddo. He has rights, and if a formal custody agreement, just call the cops and meet them at her place. Sucks to do this, but if you do it once, at least she knows she's not in control. Good luck!!!!!!
Back to Top
lemongirl View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 29 June 2009
Location: Auckland
Points: 562
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lemongirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2009 at 10:17am
The crazy thing is that the ex does have a new partner which I thought might tone her down. It's actually made her worse.

Last night's hosptial drama was really the final straw for me. Sure enough the kid didn't need to be admitted but
because the she was refusing all but the tiniest amount of Electrolytes the maternal family just kept giving her water which she just vomited up so she ended up getting dehydrated. This isn't the first time that the child has ended up sicker because her maternal family hasn't followed through with treatment plans because the kiddo has kicked up a fuss.

But then given the child has been allowed to get to the stage where she will only eat a few items of processed crap if someone hand feeds her and drink from a sippy cup at the age of almost 6 at her mother's house (I nixed both those practices and got her trying new food since I moved in) it is not unsurprising. I hate to think what this child is going to be like when she become teenager if she stays on this track.

DP is in family court at the moment to move up to shared care, personally I think he's being generous given this woman's poor parenting skills and determinaton to cut the paternal family out of this child's life.

Sorry needed a rant.
Back to Top
Babe View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 21 May 2007
Location: New Zealand
Points: 2936
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Babe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 September 2009 at 11:15am

Not fair on your step-daughter or partner or you! I hate people who use their kids in custody issues - it sucks!! FX you guys get shared care.
I'd def call the cops if you have a formal arrangement and the ex keeps reneging and basically being a b!tch!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.05
Copyright ©2001-2022 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 1.098 seconds.