Couple aborts twin boys for girl

Good point Bizzy. I know the doctors and nurses from FA where we went all work just so hard and love the news of BFPs and they have a big wall with photos of babies that they helped make possible. I think this sort of thing can give IVF a bad name to.

LJsmum wrote: SHOCKING that they could kill two babies because they didn't meet their need for a girl. Those poor babies not given a chance at life . Why couldn't they adpot them out? I agree with above comments she needs serious HELP, not a replacement girl for the one that died. I feel sorry for the 3 boys their mother and father are consumed with this drive to have a girl. I wonder when the boys are older if they will think 'why have you done this aren't we good enough'?

Totally agree so awful for the kids she already has and also an unfair burden should she have a girl.

I just don't think people should be able to choose the sex . I can imagine it being more of a grey area when there is some medical reason (eg genetic disorder like hemophilia women carry it but males have the disease) anyways thats bit off the topic.

In this case I think she is mentally unwell and can't understand how she would be allowed to have any further IVF either surely the doctor should refuse and recommend she seek treatment?

I imagine that because these people were so desperate for a girl, they would have found out at the earliest possible time... I know with FA you can pay for scans that aren't scheduled with the standard monitoring. So hopefully it wasn't a late term abortion - but that doesn't make these people's obvious mental health issues any less

Well I hope it was at early stage to Hopes - not that it makes any difference really like you say and their mental health.

Yip it was still life no matter what stage

Truly disgusting, she doesn't deserve another shot at a girl nor any other babies in my opinion!

3rdtimelucky wrote: I am thankfull that I live in a country where both IVF and ABORTION are legal and safe, and where women are able to make choices for themselves and their families.

I'm glad to live in a country where both IVF and abortion are available too.

But I can't comprehend how and why the couple would have gone through IVF only to abort based on gender though. That sucks. It's a totally different matter to falling pregnant accidentally and not being able to keep the baby. They fell pregnant on PURPOSE with HELP and KNEW there would be a 50% chance they would have to abort It just seems so ....... wrong.

What's next, getting a full genetic profile of your unborn child done and aborting if it was not going to have blue eyes?

If they are granted the right to select the sex of their next baby (though I know they can do it in other countries), it just seems to me that we are getting closer and closer to a world like that in the movie Gattaca. And that's a bit scary to me.

Sorry if this post doesn't make much sense - too late at night for me to be posting really.

Delli, your post makes sense, AND even better, its on topic.

Do we want people selecting the gender of their embryo's before implantation?

the article is not about a women having aborted healthy fetuses because they were not the gender she wanted - this happens the world over, whether conceived by IVF or naturally.

you can undertake CVS from 10 weeks onward.
(there is a blood test that puports to reveal gender from 6 weeks but it has not been scientifically tested so one would hope that method was not employed.)
you can legally terminate up to 20 weeks in NZ and Australia - for reasons of maternal mental health.

If this women was allowed to use PGD technologies available in other countries she could have chosen the gender of her embryo's and would not have aborted them.

Terminating a pregnancy does not make you an unfit mother to your other children (exisitng or future).

although you may not think this is a genuine comment - hugs to those on their TTC journey, i appreciate this will not be an easy topic for you.

i just value healthy debate of issues surrounding our rights as women to choose our own destiny.

bowie wrote: I'm not anti termination at all - if she had her three boys and then accidentally concieved twins and felt unable to care for 5 children and had a termination i wouldnt be writing this. But to have IVF and then abort healthy babies bases on their gender AND say they'll be going back for another attempt??! Thats messed up. A lot of my horror is admittedly based on the assumption she would have had to be well into the second trimester to find out the babies sex. But thats assumption.

Couldn't have put it better myself. That is exactly why I am horrified by this. I'm not anti termination in circumstances and its not my business, but I have been through IVF and for them to do IVF and then terminate IS disgraceful. I'm actually pissed at the clinic that did it. I was always under the impression Aussie was as strict with these things as NZ. And like someone else in here said, there is counseling done before IVF is started and the psychologist wouldn't let someone do it with the kind of issues this couple has.

Thanks girls, it's not just me though, there are quite a few of us here (esp in the TTC #1 and under 30yrs old and Charting - TTC after recent MC threads) that are hurting just as bad as I am.