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The theme for this months Multiple Birth Club newsletter is "They call me mum, but my name is, ummm... - maintaining your identity after you have kids". I've just been writing my submission, and it got me to thinking about it. How do YOU maintain your identity?
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Here is my finished submission:
When I told people I was going back to work, they told me I must be mad. Sienna and Mercedes were not even five months old, and I had originally planned to take up to a year off. But I couldn’t wait to get back into it; I was absolutely craving the opportunity to do something that exercised my brain a little more than making baby food and doing washing. Being a mum is an amazing experience, and one I wouldn’t swap for the world, but being a mum doesn’t define who I am. It merely opens up a whole new area of my life.
I’m incredibly lucky in that my job gives me a huge degree of flexibility. I’m lucky that as a journalist I have a skill that enables me to work from home, and I’m lucky to have found an organization that is 100% family friendly, and which is entirely run by mums working from home. I get paid to do what I love, which is write, and even better, I get to write about what I love, which is my kids.
I do still have the same deadlines that I had before I had the girls, and some days they play on the kitchen floor while I sit at the kitchen table frantically trying to bang out a column or the last few words of a feature, but for the most part my being a working mum doesn’t impact on the kids in a negative way.
In fact, it’s quite the opposite. It impacts on the kids, and on our family as a whole, in a positive way. Being a working mum has allowed me to maintain my identity, to be Emma Fahy the writer as well as Emma Fahy the mum of three beautiful girls. It gives me a different perspective, an area of my life that is all about ME and what I am good at and it has helped me to maintain a healthy self-esteem despite the battering that having twins might have given it. I have the perfect balance. I get to be a mum, I get to be a writer, I get to be just plain old me.
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Well I used to work as a legal secretary but that is a particularly stressful job and I just couldn't put that and mothering together, both of them require too much of me. So I'm basically on a long-term (maybe forever?) break from paid work and that means that this question is particularly thought-provoking.

Even though I worked for 6 years - straight from high school - my identity goes beyond my (former) occupation. What I am is not limited to what I was employed as. My identity actually has a lot more to do with me enjoying making a house a home, and helping people out - whether with listening or advice or a meal or looking after their kids. And the beauty of it is that I am able to do most of those things with my children in tow. And everything I do with my kids in tow helps to show them that life is a lot more about what you put into it than what you get out of it.*

I also see life as a whole range of stages. I've had my growing up stage and my working stage and now I'm in my mothering stage. Someday I'll be in a "free-time" stage and be able to give a lot of practical help (or so is my plan) and then will enter the grandmothering stage (again, I hope). And it's all part of me, and me helping others, and I like it.


Not to detract from you Emma (or anyone else) going back to work, I have tried it a couple of times but it wasn't for me. This is just another POV in the mix of our wide personalities on these forums

*I just have to add, the other night we all went to some friends' home for dinner and we took some ice-cream with us. When we were leaving, I told them to keep it and Hannah asked why. I said "It will be nice to leave it here for them" and she replied: "but they might eat it!"
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Originally posted by Maya Maya wrote:

"They call me mum, but my name is, ummm... - maintaining your identity after you have kids".


Interesting when my grandmother introduces herself to people, she refers to herself as Nana, and asks everyone to call her 'Nana'.
She's been Nana for over 35 years so I guess that is how she sees herself. I don't think she's been referred to by her christian name for a long time.

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Originally posted by busymum busymum wrote:

Not to detract from you Emma (or anyone else) going back to work, I have tried it a couple of times but it wasn't for me. This is just another POV in the mix of our wide personalities on these forums


Not at all! I totally get that being a working mum isn't for everyone! I'm just keen to know what other people do to maintain their own sense of identity, coz for me the biggest way I do that is thru my work
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Very good thread/question.

For me, my identity has been changing since I've had kids, and before that when i got married. and before that when i went to Ucol and through all the jobs i've had.

I think I'm similar to busymum in that the majority of my identity isn't found through my work (although it IS a substantial portion of my life and helps to shape my ID). To some extent it's not even found in what I do.

It's a tough question to answer. My ID can partly be found in the people that I surround myself with. I can find parts of my ID with other people, with the work i do, but that's still not me. What is me? The way I react? My attitudes? Who am I?

I don't know who I am. That's been part of the journey for me - realising that I don't actually know who I am and what I want. I've found some things I like by doing them. Things like getting married and having kids has taught me about life, about myself, and about God, in ways that you can only understand by having kids. I cannot explain to someone who has not had children, the pain of seeing fear in their eyes. Or the joy of hearing their laughter. But those still aren't who I am.

Like I said Maya. It's a good question. Who am I? How can you maintain an identity if you can't even answer that question? I can answer things I like, things I don't like, Things that bother me and upset me, things that make me happy, things that I do and don't want to do. But I seriously cannot tell you how I maintain my Identity. It's continually getting changed. I am not the boy i used to be, nor the man i imagined myself to be. I am not the person I want to be, but I'm happy with who I am. Who am I? I won't allow anyone else to answer that for me. They cannot know who I am.

It haunts me.




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Hmmm now this has made me think hard.

 


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Originally posted by Kels Kels wrote:

Hmmm now this has made me think hard.


 



I know! It got me thinking too! Hence why I thought it would make an interesting thread.

And deep, Chovy, real deep!
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how do i maintain my identity? more to the point, how do i follow the extremely well written replies ahead of me

i am a mum. i am a wife. i am a sexy mama (in the eyes of the beholder ). i am a lover, and an antagonist. i am a friend, a daughter, a sister. i am different for each of those things, but when i am in one i am not cut off from the others. i may think about my girls when i am with friends, or spend time with my sister or brother, and be thinking about my husband. to seperate the parts of me makes me less of a person, because the road i have travelled to become this person encompasses everything i have been and done.

i keep my identity by holding onto those things that are important to me - i still make time for a wine with a childless friend, i talk to my mummy friends at child events. i cuddle my dh on the couch, and of course, i spend my time with my girls. but for me, at the moment i am channeling my time and goals into my body - my very first triathlon in november. sometimes i feel like other parts of me are suffering for it, but on the whole i am enjoying it, and the end result will be a breath of victory to me - because i am one thing, does not mean i am only one thing.

By the same token, i am content to know that the me who is now, isnt set in stone. at any point i could change things. i know in the future i wont be a mum doing the kindy run, or mixing the baby food. but for now, keeping my identity is about remembering the person i was, and am, and who i want to be one day.

Does that make ANY sense????
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OMGosh Lyla you should be a writer !!!! Very well written Nearly a hallmark moment ..hahaha

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Kels, I think as much as we don't know our own identities, the ladies at various cafe's in the Wellington region know us better than we know ourselves maybe we should ask them LMAO

P.S I love everybody's replies. They're really well written. I don't think I'll even try!

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The question of identity is one I've struggled with all of my life, as I had an abusive, overbearing father whose main goal was to obliterate any sense of self his children possessed, and to replace it with his own version of the truth. So for a long time, I genuinely didn't know who I was. It wasn't until I moved out of my parents' house and went away to university that I started to define myself. I went to an all-female Catholic university, which you would think would be the most constrictive, identity-repressing environment imaginable, but was actually exactly the opposite -- it was the most open, liberal, questioning, thoughtful, introspective experience of my life, and had I not gone to that university, I'd never have met my husband and I wouldn't be writing this message now.

I look back on those four years at university as the defining years of my life, when I learned the most about myself, my strengths and weaknesses, my dreams and fears, my beliefs and values. So when I get to the point when I feel like I don't know who I am, my starting point for recapturing my identity is to mentally go back to that time and rebuild the little blocks of myself, using all of the things I discovered about myself during that time -- writer, friend, activist, volunteer, survivor... too many to count. Now, of course, I can add new blocks -- wife, mother, expat, immigrant, adaptor -- and the blocks change over time. I think that identities are always evolving, and the one thing I learned along the way is that there is no single word or phrase to describe my identity. It's always changing, and the best thing I can do is to hang in there during the times when I'm confused and lost and start building those blocks again when I'm calmer and my sight is clearer.

I have a postcard somewhere with this quote on it: "Be willing to relinquish the life you've planned, so as to have the life that's waiting for you." That sums it up for me -- identity is a fluid, ever-changing thing for me, and the best thing I can do for myself is to learn to let go of what was, in order to see what is, and to be open to what will be.

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Originally posted by Maya Maya wrote:

How do YOU maintain your identity?


With difficulty

Very complex topic, will have to sleep on it and come back later !
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I too work....and that is what makes me complete and enables me to give of my whole self...and to be a better mummy....aad wife. I know some people dont agree with that but if I didnt have my work in which I invest my mind, support others, help people and showcase my talents, then I would not be the most rounded mother for my daughter.

I know that i have added the title and roles of mother and wife in recent times, but to me I am so much more. I am a woman, I am independent when i want to be, I am supported when i want to be, I have been the victim, I have been the survivor - I wont say I AM cause I have passed that so i have been....I am a traveller, I am a writer, I am a shopaholic, I am a collector, I am a friend, i am sometimes a foe, I am a daughter, I was a grandddaughter, I have so many sectors of my identity that are always growing and changing.

I maintain my identity by allowing myself to grow and change as my needs, wants and those around me change. In time I will be a mother again - and if DH doesnt behave at times, I might be a divorcee or even a widow, I will one day be a grandmother (god forbid), and I know there will be other things I will add to my list as time goes on....

I will embrace change and personal growth for that is what allows me to grow and with that my identity is maintained.
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will come back too. am, now thinking damn you emma! i've spent the last few weeks trying to avoid thinking!
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Originally posted by Katherine Katherine wrote:

I have a postcard somewhere with this quote on it: "Be willing to relinquish the life you've planned, so as to have the life that's waiting for you." That sums it up for me -- identity is a fluid, ever-changing thing for me, and the best thing I can do for myself is to learn to let go of what was, in order to see what is, and to be open to what will be.



I like that!!!

Like MILF I maintain it by holding onto what is important to me....mum to Maddie, gorgeous and precious wife to B (his words!!!),friend, (paniced!) student, learning to run a business from home, daughter of God. I think the last is the most important to me, God has brought me to where I am today and I am doing what He has planned for me. He opens doors (like Bible College) and He closes doors but whatever happens it's becuase it's right for me and fits who I am. All I do I am content with.

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Wow!! that is a good question and one which has been haunting me as I enter motherhood.

I have always struggled with defining myself by my career. A lot of my peers do just this and dedicate their life to their profession. That is just not me. I decided long ago that I didnt want to die and be thought of a a great optometrist (who would?) but as a great mother, wife, friend, daughter etc etc. Is that enough? I am not sure and I will soon find out.

I have just hadmy first week off work and I admit to sitting here thinking "what do I do? What use am I?" So even though I wasnt a huge fan of my job I did feel needed and now I am in between things. I am sure I will adapt.

I look at this as moving on to a new stage in my life as busymum says and hoping that being a mum will help define another part of who I am. But I will always be ME!!! (whoever Me may be(come))
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Mmmmm deep question. I really deeply wanted to be a dr. From the time that I could remember. When I didnt get in (policital issues in SA) I was literally devastated.

It felt like now who am I? So felt like I almost didnt exist. But once McKayla was born it just changed. Dont know how to explain it. But I swear I was born to be a mother. I love the role of a SAHM and being here when hubby comes home. I am the same person but at the same time I am not the same person at all.

Okay dont know if that is jsut last night sleepless night talking. Perhaps I should just try a bit later on again.


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Someone asked me yesterday what I have been doing with myself apart from being mum to my two kids, apart from my papers at uni I really did not have any answer for them.

Sometimes i feel that my only identity is being a mum, I love my kids but crave more. This is absolutely something that I need to think about and work on!
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