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    Posted: 26 January 2008 at 3:30am
It seems often (not always) if you have one 'easy' child then the other is usually a bit more of a handful. I know alot of people who have had a difficult first child, have had a really easy going second and visa versa.   

Charlotte was a breeze- really easy going baby. Pretty tame toddler- she had her moments but all in all its been a real pleasure raising her. Good sleeper, good eater and nice cuddly smiley temperament. Kate has been a real handful from pretty early on. She had reflux which didn't help, but even now thats mostly cleared up shes still very demanding. She doesn't sleep that well and is grumpy alot of the time (probably because she doesn't sleep!). She seems really angry (I know it seems crazy to think that of a 7 month old) but she has furious outbursts all the time if you aren't doing what she wants e.g. letting her eat the paper/remote, picking her up, rocking her to sleep the right way, feeding her immediately. Charlotte was never like this

I'm really aware of not wanting to 'create' a difficult second child but since its so early on it does really seem that nature rather than nurture has really come into play here. So I was just wondering, of those of you with more than one, have you noticed that you've had one easy and one demanding baby or have they all been similar in temperament?

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I know that me and my sister were totally different - she was a real unsettled baby, not sleeping and stuff, but then was a really good toddler and child.

I was an angel baby (second born) and slept through the night from my first night home from hospital. But then I turned into the devil toddler, with mega tantrums.

I think it's definitely nature rather than nurture at that early stage... though I do think that when I was a toddler, being the youngest contributed to my tantrums - I wanted to do all these things my sister did, but I either couldn't or I wasn't allowed to. But they don't think like that as babies!!
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My eldest was a nightmare baby. Granted she had reflux but she never slept, very temperamental, hard to please etc....so happy when she finally got to toddlers satge and was able to talk things improved and she was an adorable little girl.

#2 the most easy going of all my babies, sleep well, feed well and over all not very demanding at all.

#3 Very easy going but as a baby  now but 8mths and under a struggle, with sleep, reflux, asthma etc. Once that was all sorted he has become the most easy going of the 3 of them age wise.

Miss 12 is now very reserved and quiet (untill she knows you well)
Miss 7 is very chatty and friendly

both are pretty high maintanace(sp?) lol more so than when either of them were babies


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Both of mine were the same as little babies, hardly sleep and want to be held all the time but the best eaters. Jack is now a really full on kid but ever since he started moving he got better cos he could do what he wanted, he doesn't sleep tho.

I don't think Caprece is going to be as full on because she seems a lot more happier to sit and play and doesn't really seem that eager to move about. She still doesn't sleep to well either.

I'd say both of mine were nightmare babies with Jack having reflux and Caprece having colic so I'm hoping they will be dream teens Or this might just be karma because I was the worst baby ever
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We have similar to you, Jen. #1 was the most relaxed baby ever, until she was 10mos we'd play with her or just pop her in front of a pile of toys and she'd be completely happy. Then she finally started crawling but never got into it much before walking.

Briona had silent reflux for the first 3mos but we didn't know for sure until it was too late so no meds for her. 2 1/2 yrs on she is still a very determined girl. While our eldest now likes things done the 'right way', Briona can get quite stroppy if things are not doing as she had hoped and she kicks at Kryssi if she's trying to get into her stuff Bria threw her first tantrum at 5mos

Kryssi is far more like Hannah - settled, easy going, happy to fit in with whatever is going - with a few exceptions. From 6mos she'd only eat pureed (etc) food if it had meat in it. Nowadays she refuses water from a teat bottle but will drink it from a cup... etc.

All quite fascinating! Oh we're looking into things that each girl specifically would like to get into. So far, it's Hannah=ballet, Briona=gymnastics; Kryssi=singing?
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Paris was a very calm child mostly, slept like a dream but was hard to feed simply cos she just wouldn't drink! she sat, learnt to talk and figure things out and wouldn't move an inch despite numerous constant attempts to convince her that she should. so she tends be the more quiet thinker one, although i must say she has tended towards the girly girl side of things more lately, very into dancing, fashion, jewellery music and is a bit of a posh bossy little chick.

Ayja i think was kinda harder to handle, she fed like a dream but wouldn't sleep! she has been more active all along, learnt to roll and crawl and walk earlier and got into things - everything! We never had to toddler-proof our house much with Paris cos by the time she could actually get to things, she listened when we said no. Ayja has pushed the limits with alot of things, but she is in some ways a bit more free-spirited, fun and cheeky so she makes up for that bit of defiance and stubborness with that and is lots of fun!.

I have also found that Paris is very shy until she knows you (possible the result of me being a shy SAHM for the first year of her life so she didn't get too much public interaction apart from close family)
Ayja is the talkative, friendly kid that talks to the strangers in the takeways which is a bit of a worry, but then i could attribute that to her going to daycare at 11 weeks old, so she's been used to lots of different people and adapting to new situations a bit easier.

Our girls are much the same as Teresa's first two, Paris is very into having things done "the right way" as well whereas Ayja will just tear in and do things her way, Paris gets very annoyed at Ayja because of this. Benefits we have found is that where paris is a bit of a scaredy cat with trying new things, she'll often decide not to do something then in comes ayja with her "i'll-try-anything" attitude and does it which eggs PAris into thinking "well if she can do it so can i"

Funny Teresa you said about the dancing and gymnastics thing, i was thinking that Ayja would probably go well with Gymnastics too actually. I can't see her doing dancing?

I try not to pidgeon-hole the girls, but i can see very clear differences and in some ways can see how they'll be growing up. I try not to let them know that, or treat them differently because of it, but i do see paris being the miss popularity kinda girl at high school, I see ayja being possibly the one that gets in trouble in class even though she knows the answer, I somehow also see Ayja being the one that dyes her hair black and pierces things she shouldn't. lol

so yeah, I think most of us that have replied now have noticed that. Maybe it's alot to do with being kinda cheltered and precious with our firsts no matter how much we try not to, and being a bit more "she'll be right" stress-less attitude with the second. But definately i think nature does come into it. I have also found that the descriptions of my childrens star signs fit them to a t.

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Conor is my old soul, He was an absolute blessing as a baby, which helped because I was a single mum for the first year and a half of his life. He did everything at the right time and fed beautifully; then I met my ex, and he changed into a frightened scared little boy, who wouldn't say boo. That wasn't his fault, it was mine and the ex's. When the ex committed suicide it effected him more than I ever imagined. He blamed himself, a 4yr old thought he was the reason that X's heart had stopped. We are still paying for it now, he's had counselling, sand therapy, all sorts to try and get him thru it all. He's my protector.

Nyah she fed like an absolute dream for 19mths, she was a cool little toddler. Very much like her mother in temperment, she was stubborn and head strong. Now she's demanding, she's a "its all about me" girl and I love her to bits.

Cooper is my other old soul. Completely different to his brother and sister. Couldn't feed him, he was a horrible sleeper, and cried everytime his nappy was changed or he had to have a bath. Now at nearly 5mths he's my chubba bubba and is a real dude, he's very cheeky and quite laid back.
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Megan is a fairly content baby 99% of the time she will settle to sleep within 5-10 mins and when we are out she is very quiet and only gets grizzly if it has been a couple of hours since her last feed or her bum needs changing otherwise she is happy to just lie there.

it will be interesting to see what sort of personality she has.

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Hell yes, all three of mine are completely different. Maya was an absolute dream baby, the kind that had obviously read the rule books before she was born and slept and fed and was happy and smiley even when she was really sick. Even now she's pretty content, altho she has a very stubborn, independent streak and knows what she wants.

The gremlins on the other hand were nightmare babies, screamed up to 20 hours a day, had reflux and a host of other medical issues, were shocking sleepers and just generally hard work. Then they settled into placid, happy babies around 4-5 months, but now they are hell-for-leather toddlers into absolutely everything much like Janine's Ayja. I call them my two-toddler destructa crew, and they are destructive. They do have different personalities tho, Sienna is happy and easy going, a real little entertainer, Mercedes is clingy and needy and grizzly but fiercely determined and tackles everything head on.

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My Andrew and Josh are a little bit like Paris and Ayja. Andrew was a good sleep and can be by himself easy as. He wasn't a good feeder and went onto formula early.

Josh on the other hand was a great feeder but poor sleeper.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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james screamed his way thur his frist 9 weeks of life thur the day ok all the time but sleeped well at night hes a socal butterfly stubbord and knows how to stick up for him self, loving and cuddy, checky and has a great sence of humoor but can be shy with some people(although i think he plays on it abit and people are always telling me he looks so much like me james is just like his mummy he loves his music and danicing and wesrting with grandad (or anyone he can werstle with) awwww ok i,m rambing i love my boy
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jack was an absolute dream baby! slept through from 6wks.
apart from a couple of nights here and there slept well night and day, fed well and is generally really cruisy happy chappy....apart from now when he has little tantys over nothing
he'll happily sit down and watch his dvds or read books, he has a high concentration level and always has.



charli....a little tart! didn't sleep through til 10wks, spent alot of that night time screaming and we didn't know what to do with her. she was good during the daytime, just didn't want to sleep at night. she feed well but she was on formula top-up at night from about 15wks.   she wakes up during the night every now and again.
she's a stubborn little madam, very cheeky and is always on the go, can't sit still for 5mins. she's not interested in books for long and doesn't really get into dvds either

but i love them both to bits

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i hope jack gets into something musical or dancing too..he's always loved music and has good rhythm. he's abit of a sook too, if he falls over, it's the end of the world....

charli isn't into music really and when she falls over and bangs her head, she gets up straight away and carries on   hahahaha

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Mine have all been very different.
Natasha was the hell child she never slept AT ALL !!!! She would throw up whole feeds so I'd have to start again. She was a fussy eater when she started and she was always sick. She could actually make herself sick when she got upset about something.
Now she is the most wonderful, sweet, caring, bright 12yo you could ever ask for.

Alex was a dream baby she slept and eat well she was a happy we thing and made us laugh at her antics then..... she started school and my god did she develop an attitude big time. She could throw the most amazing tantrums and she always new best.
Shes nine now and has really calmed down over the last year. She's funny and bright and loving and she's so good with Alyssa and loves little kids.

They fight between themselves all day every day. But both kids Teachers have always told me how good they are so we must be doing something right. Maybe they save up all their naughtiness until they get home.

Alyssa is a good baby not as easy in a way as Alex as she doesn't sleep well at night (still wakes for a feed) but she's a cruisy happy baby 99% of the time so I can live with that. She's not a great eater either but she is slowly improving.

Now I'm more worried about what they will be like as teenagers
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Originally posted by Jennz Jennz wrote:

She seems really angry (I know it seems crazy to think that of a 7 month old)
I read that line and said *snap!* in my head. Olivia was a VERY angry baby, very highly strung, not willing to have anything taken away from her and yeah it does sound crazy. It was Olivia's reflux that made her so angry though, when she started to grow out of it a bit more she became very lovely natured. She is still a bit of an excitable handful and when she is teething/sleepy is positively awful but it is only one day. They so do become more good days than bad days. I think I started to see more of the good than the bad at around 10m to 13m.

Originally posted by Jennz Jennz wrote:

I'm really aware of not wanting to 'create' a difficult second child but since its so early on it does really seem that nature rather than nurture has really come into play here.
I asked *myself* the same question when Olivia was that age, Olivia didn't like being cuddled or held for long and I just decided that from now on my business was making her want it. I hugged her and I held on for grim death, I totally smothered her till nature did turn into nurture and she started clinging back. I don't know if that sounds bizarre or harsh or silly but she is so loving now, especially of other kids. She is the child who gives up her toy, who goes and pats and hugs the babies, she is the nice kid who although is into everything is still really lovely to everyone and I'm really proud of that.

I know you wanted to hear from mothers of more than one but just that one line struck a cord in me and I had to share. All the best
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Oh its so nice to hear that horror babies can turn into lovely children! My biggest fear was that this is just her personality and she was going to be a monster to raise

Its interesting how they can be so different from day dot. In theory most have the same genes going in so you would think that they would be more similar. Its obviously alot more complex than that!
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