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Lets clear up the Physicis of Ultrasound.

An hour of ultrasound imaging uses pulsed ultrasound waves - ie a u/s wave goes in and gathers information and is reflected back - there is a time delay before the next pulse is sent in (5 seconds of ultrasound per 15 minutes of imaging scanning time) or 20 seconds (per hour) of ultrasound exposure spread around different areas of the baby.

A sonic aid is CONTINUOUS firing of the ultrasound wave in order to read rapid frequency of heart rate. This continuous exposure is concentrated in one area of baby ie the Fetal Heart .

Daily sonic aid of 20 seconds is a far greater exposure to one area of the baby . if you have to have an u/s imaging scan every week of the pregnancy you will never expose the baby to as much concentrate ultrasound as sonic aid.

i would not do it to my baby and I have the means to.
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We bought a doppler similar to the type used by midwives, and used it for our first baby since we were really paranoid.    This time however, Bubs started moving very young so we didn't even get a chance to have a play.
One warning I would give was that at my check up around 15 weeks my very experienced midwife couldn't find the heart and so sent me for a scan - of course all was okay, the monkey was just hiding!! Also when we were using it with number one it was quite hard to work out what was actually the baby and what was Mum.
However when we did manage to find it, it was great for my husband to hear Madam's heart and to actually comprehend that there was a little baby in my tummy.
We used it about once a week for about five mins tops and had an average sized baby with no problems. While it was reassuring I doubt very much you'd want to use it on a daily basis - if you are that worried you should call your midwife to talk through your concerns.
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AmmaS

I think its time you left the post as you are riaing on everyone's parade.
If people want to hear their Babies let them.
I lost my Daughter at 19 weeks, I had a scan at 17 & 18 weeks, if I had a doppler I would have been able to hear her and not carry on with my dying child inside of me for over a week.

What you do and don't do is totally up to you but I suggest you think about your approach next time.

I am 6 weeks pregnant and I intend to buy one asap, now ladies where did you say you can buy one from. I would far rather pay the money to hear my baby (as & when I feel) not to often but often enough to know Baby is ok.
Enjoy listening your your little ones
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Maudie - here is a link to one like the one I have from trademe (Same user too)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Baby-gear/Other/auction-174322133.htm


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Originally posted by emachan emachan wrote:

Maudie - here is a link to one like the one I have from trademe (Same user too)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Baby-gear/Other/auction-174322133.htm


That's who I bought mine from too and they were really good - very quick delivery and had paynow which is so handy!
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Thanks Ladies,
yah now I can't wait to hear the wee one.

I wanted to get one last pregnancy but didn't get around to it, I wil be sure to do so this time.

Thanks again
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hmm this has got me wondering, I also MC earlier this year and as a result you do tend to worry alot. I think this could be a good investment and peace of mind...thanks for the info ladies.


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i suppose we don t care much about mothers smoking whilst pregnant or eating unhealthy food so why should we care about extra ultrasound - after all there is no evidence of harm with the LOW diagnostic levels used by health care professionals.

i guess the evidence will come later when plenty of you use these things adhoc. After all in the early days of Xrays everyone thought it was safe and the exposure was complete when the skin tuned red. We now know many many years later that use use it with care and at a very minimum level to get the maximum DIAGNOSTIC in formation.

Have fun - your baby can't complain.
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Oh I suppose I shouldn't have had mcdonalds for lunch lol

I had numerous xrays in a period of an hour or so a few years ago for bowel cancer (which luckily i didnt have) and then found out a week later i was pregnant and baby was fine.
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OUCH!!
I have to assume AmmaS that you have never suffered from miscarriages let alone multiple miscarriages, so can have no idea the anxiety levels of those of us who have. Surely there must be a balance somewhere?!

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Yes I have in fact had miscarriages - I I realize how upsetting it all is - a scan is not going to change anything and in my experience all is fine for the day of the scan then the panic starts again the very next day.

I would rather not expose my baby to anything more than is required to obtain a healthy baby at the end of the day.
Self monitoring is not going help either.

Your midwife or OB will do as much as is required for baby's safety (not for maternal pacification because of anxiety) . Sad but true
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Originally posted by AmmaS AmmaS wrote:


Your midwife or OB will do as much as is required for baby's safety (not for maternal pacification because of anxiety) . Sad but true


I have to disagree with this. Most midwives/OB's operate on the premise that if a woman is concerned, it warrants further investigation. It is far better to do 99 unneccessary CTG's that generate normal traces than to hesitate and not do the 1 CTG that might have saved a baby's life.

I also disagree with your comments re: self monitoring. During pregnancy it's normal to see your LMC monthly in first and second tri, then more frequently in the third tri. In between these appointments, women have to self monitor, whether it be by watching their diet, checking for swelling or bleeding symptoms or keeping a kick chart. Some women choose to take this one step further and use a sonic aid to self monitor their baby's well being, that's their choice.

In my first pregnancy having a sonic aid at home wasn't an option and even if it had been, I wouldn't have bothered. It was a normal healthy pregnancy. But during my third pregnancy, which was a multiple pregnancy and came after a long period of subfertitility and a pregnancy loss, it was a useful resource. Yes, I had anxiety and the sonic aid helped with that. But even more importantly, when I DID have complications, it reassured me that my babies were OK. When I had a bleed at 25 weeks at 5am it was incredibly reassuring to listen to my babies hearts beating while I waited for the midwife to arrange further investigation. I resent the implication that I put my babies at risk by using the sonic aid.

I think the big issue here is choice. If you don't think using a sonic aid is a good idea, then don't use one. No one is saying you have to. But please don't criticise those of us who did choose to use one for one reason or another.
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Originally posted by AmmaS AmmaS wrote:

i suppose we don t care much about mothers smoking whilst pregnant or eating unhealthy food so why should we care about extra ultrasound - after all there is no evidence of harm with the LOW diagnostic levels used by health care professionals.

i guess the evidence will come later when plenty of you use these things adhoc. After all in the early days of Xrays everyone thought it was safe and the exposure was complete when the skin tuned red. We now know many many years later that use use it with care and at a very minimum level to get the maximum DIAGNOSTIC in formation.

Have fun - your baby can't complain.

I guess we should also not:
use mobile phones (due to radiation)
drive a car (in case we have an accident)
walk (in case we get run over)
have a dog/cat/budgie (in case we create an allergy)
eat too many peanuts/nuts (allergy)
eat low carb-low fat-high fat-high carb- high protein-low protein... the list is endless.


We make choices based on the knowledge we have at the time, someday you may well be proved correct but it is just as possible you may be incorrect.


I have been reading this thread with interest and I can totally understand those with a need to make sure bubs is still growing day to day or week by week.

I can also understand your point of view but if you REALLY want people to listen then you need to take a much more tactful and informative rather than a condescending, overbearing approach. Your first post was enough to make me get riled up, let alone the next few posts and I dont use a doppler! ('cept with MW)

I wasn't going to post but enough is enough... let those who want to use one, use one, and stop taking the mickey outa them! Sheesh...


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ok didnt realise such questions were going to cause such a response,
AmmaS - as others have also asked please do not post in here again your comments are not welcome. I personaly am disgusted in your comment "have fun, that our baby can not complain" how dare you suggest that any of us would do anything to harm our little ones!
If you have joined OHBABY just to cause issues i would suggest you find another website.
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Well said Shannon
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you know what our mothers use to tell us, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.

If your Dr or Speciaist say's it ok to use a dopper than go fot it.
I rang my specialist this morning and he suggested that it is SAFE & FINE as long as it is not daily and you don't use it for more than a couple of minuted. He also said that if it helps with peace of mind then go for it.

So I say ladies we know our bodies, we know babies, don't let anyone ever tell you differently

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I used my doppler for no more than the recommended time, my MW was fine with me having my own doppler and my doppler gave me peace of mind as I bled continually for the first 16 weeks of my pregnancy. My baby girl, now 6 months old, is healthy and happy. And, should I feel the need to, I will definitely be using my doppler again next time round.


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I just wanted to say how Beautiful Emily is. She is wee i can see that but just gorgeous.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Troods Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2008 at 9:47pm
Thanks maudie23. Going completely off topic here, but I have thought about updating the photo on the ticker to something recent, but that photo is my favourite - one of the first taken of her just an hour old.


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OK ladies point taken

I do get slightly more upset by the lack of knowledge around with regards
to keeping yourselves and babies safe.

No of you would willingly cause harm.
But I think it is important that you are well informed and if I have facts to share then you would we be most upset if I didn't.

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