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well it sounds to me like you might be being a bit unreasonable. when you both work and you both go to the gym then you have to change your priorities. If you both get home at 5.30 maybe if you had dinner ready in a slow cooker you could have that time together. Once again its just a matter of planning to make what you consider important work. And just as an aside i find it hard to believe that it only takes ten minutes to get a toddler up and out the door. Morning times can be hectic too.

Maybe you could skip the gym in the morning and spend some time together then and both have time at the gym at night.

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actually i think he is being unreasonable too. if you hate the crazy dinner hour then i think he should consider going to the gym at least half an hour later even. Do you know his gym partner? is he married or have kids? maybe you could talk to him or his partner to see if they could arrange a slightly later time.

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Bizzy - I would have no problem getting up and out the door in ten mins if I had stuff ready to go the night before, and seeing he is going to grandparents I assume he has breakfast there (?)...

Would it work alternating who goes to the gym in the morning? so you could go three mornings and DH two mornings or vice versa...
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Ok so I would sit down with him & make a plan. You get the same amount of time away (if you want) & he does the child/house stuff or he he drop some sport or changes his times.

If he want to go to the gym 3 days a week fine...but he goes when it suits everyone, like after baby goes to bed or in the morning & his training buddy will have to get over it.

He has to be aware that children & wife/partner changes things. Do it now while you only have 1 child.

I had this warped view on things before I got married, I wanted it to be like perfect..I would cook, clean house, look after kids all day long & everything would be rosie, but factor in work, money, wants, needs, kids it did not work. We all work well together but it has not been what you see on tv & I think my mum made it look easy or that's my memories.

We don't sweet the small stuff, I am a SAHM at the moment so I do all the kids & house stuff, if it gets too much I call in DH. We don't go out much, more home bodies now with 3 kids, DH does not do sports but does game/study/ on-call for work & has odd hrs sometimes. I also like to watch a few programs on TV that DH does not like..our life works for us so I would suggest find a happy medium for you both, no one plan works for all.
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For us, Dh leaves around 7.15 in the morning and doesn't always get to see our toddler awake then. 3 nights he's home (I pick him up) around 6-6.30, 2 nights he's home around 9pm. Some Saturday's he does gaming with friends or does sporting events and when possible (on w/ends) he does the morning shift of child-wrangling so I can sleep in (mainly because I rarely get an undisturbed night).

So some days he doesn't see the little'un awake at all. We try to have dinner together, but I'm not gonna keep the little'un up to do it - I feed him and either sit with him while he eats (having a snack) or I put his chair near me while I do the dishes/prep our dinner or whatever. It's not ideal. I think family dinnertime is important from a healthy eating and socialisation perspective. But nights run late often enough (we aim for an 7.30-8pm bedtime) on their own without me holding dinner on purpose - I believe it's just not fair on our toddler to make him wait.

Before we had kids we knew this was what our week was like and agreed to keep doing it (I'm a part-time student and full-time sahm) - but frankly if Dh was out every night and every weekend we'd be having words - especially if that meant I was doing dinner every night as well as working fulltime. His argument that his work is more exhausting because it's physical is, frankly, a load of sh*t. Does he think you're doing your nails all day while sitting on your butt? My guess is your job is mentally exhausting (as all are sometimes), and if he was that tired from work he wouldn't be spending all that extra energy at the gym.

What you're doing isn't working for you as a family. As a family you need to decide a way to make it fair. Maybe ask him if he'd think it was fair if he was doing two lots of dinner every night (child's and your's/his) after doing his normal day. If he's out 3 nights is he in charge of food the other 2 at least? Does he pull his weight in other ways?
              
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I hope you guys can sort out a compromise, it does sound like he needs to be a bit more reasonable about it....but hey he is a male after all!

As a side note I am jealous of anyone who has help with the dinner/bedtime routine, my DH is home 2/7 nights a week and I have always done it all

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So tricky, personally I'd be booking in something for 6-7.30 on those other two weeknights - ha ha!

In our house I'm the one that does the evening stuff, but I do it after bedtime.


Can you aim for dinner at 6 and as someone said, do the slow cooker thing or make extra when you can and freeze and have dinner together at 6ish (even if DH has a light snack then), have toddler in bed by 7pm and gym at 7.30pm? Maybe also each of you could give up a gym visit to go do something as a family that is fitness orientated in the weekend, like cycling or hiking, that you could do as a family?
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Yeah.... that would piss me off too. For all the reasons you listed.

We have always had dinner as a family. Dinnertime around 6pm and then shower/bath and bed around 7pm for Jude.

TBH I rely heavily on DP being around during that time. I can and will do it myself when he is not around - no worries at all. But I would not want to do it everyday of the week - and would become a bit resentful if I did have to.

This past week or two he has been the one to come in from work and cook dinner as I've been a bit worn out. A lot of the days in the past week he has come in from work(dairy farmer) and cooked breakfast in the mornings as well. It's all swings and roundabouts though - I usually do breakfast and I will often take the boys away for a night or two so that he can have a night without the dinner/bedtime rush and just some time to relax. And a bit more of the dinnertime/bedtime rush falls to me during busier times such as calving though he still does help out.

Re hobbies. DP is a mountain biker and I'm a horse rider. When I go riding though - I usually have my horse with family so they can look after the boys for a bit. When he goes riding, I have to look after the boys but I usually get a semi-sleep in (used to be a full sleep in when it was just Jude but now Willem wants feeding so DP looks after Jude) on weekends DP has off work.

It's all about compromise really.


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Totally understand where you are coming from, its similar at our house.

We both work full time, we have a 5 year old and a 15 month old. He gets them both up and ready in the morning, as I'm already at work then, and I pick the baby up from my parents and our older daughter up from school, take her to her after school activities, bring them home, do homework, dinner, washing, bed etc.

He sometimes gets home around 4pm as hes a teacher, sometimes he even can pick our oldest up from school. But he doesnt get home until about 8pm twice a week as he goes to two different training sessions, and two other nights he is late as hes a sports coach at school too. Then Saturday he coaches rugby in the morning, plays in the afternoon.

Its hard. It frustrates me. We both work full time and yet I definately do more than he does. I have thought about it, and in the longer term I am okay with it. Eventually we both want me to be a SAHM when we can afford it, so we are both working towards the same goal, and I know that he wouldnt be happy if he didnt get to do the sport he does, its a huge part of his life and always has been. Hes such a great dad that I think it makes up for any time he misses out on.

Ultimately it has to be what works for you, and I find it helps to realise that it doesnt necessarily have to be "even" between you to work, if you know what I mean, its definately not even in any sense at our house, just as long as you are both happy with it.

Also though, I do make some time for myself, whether it is 20 mins of exercise a day ( i just jump on my cross trainer at home so it is literally 20 mins, no travelling time which helps) and I do go to one thing a week thats just for me which is two hours once a week.
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um, why does he have to go to the gym 3 times a week if he is doing such a physical job?

I would ask him to drop a session, or as others have suggested, go once your toddler is in bed.

Good luck

Reading all of these posts has made me aware of how hectic family life is for us these days. My partner has been away for 5 weeks now and we have another 2 to go, so I have been doing it solo, ugh. When he is home tho I hate it when he goes out! Will be interesting to see how we go when he has a new 9-5 job.


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I haven't read all the post but here is my view.

I am in boat of DP working lots and strange hours (often weekend work and mostly night work!) .

I think you need to seriously think about what it is you want and explicitly tell your DP. My DP needs things spelt out clearly backed up with reasoning. IE I do not want you to go to the gym at 5.30pm. I want you to be home at 5 and we'll have dinner together at 5.15pm and then it is your play time with Baby. At 6ish it is babies bath time and you can go to the gymm then. THis is because i think dinner time is an important family time, you are missing out on seeing your child grow up.
THis may take some arguing but your DP may go away think about it and change as well.

Is there any way or time that DP and you can go to the gym together?? Make that special couple time as it is something you both enjoy. Also could you and your son go to rugby games with your DP. GO and support him, let your bubba watch daddy play have family days out even if it's only once a month it's still family time>!

Also both you and DP need to commit to one family morning/afternoon a week. WHere you don't go to the gym or work or hobbies. WHere you all hang out together, play, cuddle as a family. Down time!

Thats just my thoughts. Also you may want to sacrifice something as well (ie one morning gym visit) so that it seems like you are giving as well.
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Im in a similar position with my DH playing footy on the weekends and training every tues and thurs. I ofund the only way to make it work for us is to lump the week nights and go along and watch the footy on the sat. It makes a for nice day out (fingers crossed the weather agrees) and a chance for me to talk to other people who arnt mums or co- workers. I dont go to the gym or really do much for myself these days, I only seem to look after our little miss each day or work which sometimes leaves me stressed and grumpy for him to come homw to. Although you will most likely find that he does miss spending time with your son (my DH sometimes comes home and miss is having a sleep then he goes to training and comes home at 8-8.30pm and she is back in bed). Perhaps asking for a compromise of 2 nights a week at the gym and one arvo at footy. and then the social match they always seem to have needs to be cut to a minimum as weekends should be family time. and make sure that you and DH get atleast one night alone together a fortnight- even if its just a movie at home snuggling on the couch. good luck
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This has been really interesting reading - we don't have any children yet, but my DH and I were raised fairly differently and we butt heads quite a bit

Basically, he is quite a mummys boy, and his mum did EVERYTHING for him and his big brother, and their dad. SIL said that she has big problems getting BIL to do anything around the house or with their kids, at least BIL cooks.

I grew up without a dad, but when I spent time with "normal" families what I noticed was that they all worked really well as teams, they shared all the duties, i.e. my grandparents have the arrangement (and have for their whole marriage) that the first person home cooks dinner, the second person home cleans up.

I'm just about at my wits end of trying to explain to DH that I'm not his maid, but then he throws back in my face that I have lots of time to do everything as I'm not working - failing to recall that my workplace fell down in the quake.

Basically I'd really like us to have a proper dining table (ours has two computers on it) and eat at it, and then hang out together and do the dishes afterwards. He sees his computer time as really valuable "relaxing" time though, so he eats at the computer and doesn't do dishes.

I do get worried that the routine will just get worse when we have kids, so I feel for you OP that your hubby doesn't seem to understand the importance of the family evening.
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Thanks everyone so much for all your replies.

I have come to realise that perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic in my expectations of what we as a family are supposed to be like HOWEVER I will still continue to campaign for what I think is important but those things I guess will be more flexible as our family changes.

On the night I originally posted my problem, I'd already sat down with him and we talked about my reasoning behind not wanting him take so much time away from home. Although at the time he was resistant (which is why I came in here and asked the question) I think he's actually had a think about it and is - and I hate to use this phrase - coming 'round to my way of thinking.

TBH, I think it was the complete resistance that was pissing me off the most. The arrogance that "he was doing it and that was that" attitude was what was making me more angry.

ANYWAY, tonight he said that he's going to go to the gym twice a week and at least once on the weekend. Him making an effort is a HUGE deal and perhaps was the only thing I really needed.

We also spent some time together as a couple on Friday night which I didn't realise but was craving that too. And that also helped.

All that aside, I would never stop him from his gym or his football (which BTW is 'soccer') because it's what he loves to do, DS and I do go and watch him play when the weather is good because it's also important to us that he see's us being active.

Some of the fixes:
- Be more prepared (Thanks Bizzy - I needed to hear that)
- Have dinner as early as possible so that we can get DS into bed by 8pm, then DH goes to the gym later
- More 'Date' nights

PS: It literally only takes him 10 minutes because he gets him up, dresses him (sometimes while he's still asleep) and puts him in the car (breakfast at Nana and GDads, and they have nappies and clothes there for him)

ETA: That he is a bloody awesome Dad when he's with our DS and I love that about him.

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good on both of you!

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