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    Posted: 09 October 2007 at 8:29am
...to be thinking about going back to work?

OK, so DH and I are REALLY struggling living off the one income. What makes it worse was that I was the main breadwinner and earned nearly double what DH earns now and we are finding that we are losing money each week. If it wasn't for the fact that we have a bit of savings as a safety net, we'd really be up s*%t creek! It just seems to be one thing after another, and with Christmas looming, I'm starting to stress a little...

We get a bit of money from IRD (working for families) but even with that, our rent takes pretty much half of DH's wages every week, and then the rest is chewed up with bills and groceries. We are by no means living an extravagant lifestyle. We hardly use the car (we only have 1) as DH's work is a 10 minute walk and I can walk to get whatever I need.

So, anyway, I saw an ad for a job that could be a possibility, and am wondering whether I should apply or not. It is part-time (I have emailed them to find out specific hours, pay, etc.) but I don't really want to leave my wee girl in child care at this age and it would also mean I would pretty much have to give up breastfeeding... Any suggestions?? I'm really in two minds about the whole thing...


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Hi Shell, I am in the same position as you except that our mortgage eats up 110% of DH's income. He is applying for better jobs at the moment and hopefully something will turn up. I have also been thinking of going back part time as I can earn the same as him in a day or two. My ideal solution would be for him to knock back a day a week of work and look after Tom while I work that week. I also dont want to leave TOm in childcare and wouldnt have a clue where to start with that.

So short answer...no you arent mad!
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you might find it wont be worth if financially anyway. As you might loose what little in the way of help you are getting from the government and then paying for childcare. Maybe try looking into things you can do from home? ie Mystery shopping, avon, market research? Or find work that fits around your DH work hours.

I dont think your mad. If you are going backwards financially, i would be stressing out too!


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If you look at daycares you will see there are heaps of people in the same position as you, heaps of wee babies in there and no your not mad. Im looking for something now and going to be putting the kids into daycare for longer, im struggling with putting them in and dont know if i should do it full time to make things much easier financially for us or just part time which would keep up afloat....sorry thats off the topic but my point is that I dont think it matters what age you start the childcare thing its always hard and you will always feel guilty. A couple of days a week certainly wont hurt bubs.
Or what about you going back to work full time and you hubby being a stay at home dad?
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I so hear you, we are in the same boat, I have just accepted a job at Lonestar rest here in Palmy and quite excited it is night work so dh will look after the kids, I applied for wait staff position something I have never done, but willing to try anything that will help out well I have been given a diff position, on the front counter charging up the orders and taking the money when people come to pay should be loads of fun, not sure if it will help out too much with the extra running of the car and then we will prob loose some accom supp and wff but it will be nice to get out of the house as well, catch 22 but won't have to pay daycare.
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Oooh congrats on the job, Nic!  We'll have to go in for a meal and see you there (Lonestar is the only place that serves dinners big enough to satisfy Jono's appetite!).  And Shelley, no I don't think you're crazy.  It's a tough decision, and I'm sure you've already started doing the sums to work out how much more you'll have as a family even after the cost of childcare is factored out of your wages.  Is there a possibility of weekend work for you while DH looks after baby, if you don't like the idea of full-time work and needing daycare? 

And hey, I hear ya on the Christmas thing.  You know what though, people get over you not spending up on Christmas in a hurry.  Last year we didn't give gifts, just one for Ella as it was her first Christmas.  We warned our families beforehand so they wouldn't feel ripped-off for getting us presents when we were giving them Tear Fund 'gifts for life' instead.  And we did give the grandys & older relatives a bunch of pics of baby, but really we didn't parcel up any proper presents.  And no-one minded! 

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LMAO Andie, even Willie struggles with LoneStar meals!

Go Nic!

I'm doing canvases for family presents this year, brought on by Andie's painty party idea. I'm going to get some of the tiniest canvases and give each person a set of three, one painted by each girl.

And Shell I don't think you're mad, I work because I enjoy it but also because it affords me the lifestyle which I choose to keep. We could *afford* to live on Willie's income alone but I wouldn't be shopping at Patch or going out for coffee nearly as often as I do. I'm lucky in that I work from home tho so my costs are reduced, altho now that I have a nanny that eats up a bit.
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I returned back to work when Gina was 6 weeks old because of finances so no you're not mad. We' re lucky that my grandmother has been able to take care of her and I work only 2 1/2 days at the office & 1 1/2 days from home. I also returned back to my old work so things went smoothly. You don't have to give up b'feeding either - I expressed while at work and Gina was on b'milk until she was 6 months old.
Can't really give you any advice - it's a really hard decision but for us it was the only way. And trust me, returning to work is not all that bad either.
Is there any family memeber that can help you look after Isabella?
    
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Maybe DH could be a SAHD? and that way he could bring Isabella in so you wouldn't have to give up bfing
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Hey Shell,

You most definitely are NOT mad!

I went back to work full-time when Ollie was 5 months old for the same reasons. It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. We decided to use a home-based care company & found a great carer not too far from our home. As for breastfeeding I was feeding him morning & night and expressing at work. Eventually I couldn't keep up with the expressing and he began having formula during the day (am still BFing am & pm).

He is a thriving little boy and really enjoys going to care and interacting with other kids. Its also been beneficial to me, which was a surprise. I always thought I'd be a SAHM, but have found that I definitely need to work for my sanity.

I don't know if that's been any help at all, but I hope things all work out OK for you and your family
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Thanks everyone for your great advice. The job is only part time (apparently 2-3 days working from 9am-6pm roughly) but to get there will take an hour from where I live, so I'd have to factor in petrol costs too (and time). And no, DH is NOT going to be a SAHD as he has only just started his career (he's an accountant) and needs to get at least 3 years experience before his pay will go up, so he really NEEDS to work. Whos to say I'd get the job anyway, but I might send my CV in anyway, and let that be the deciding factor (fate of the Gods and all that ).


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I had to go back to work earlier than planned (Caitlin was 4 months old) for the same reasons as you, I was the main bread winner.

My advice would be to gradually ease yourself back into the workforce, perhaps something you could do from home? or for a couple of hours a week? It was a lot harder than I could have ever imagined and still is sometimes.

Also, make sure whatever hours you do that the time you spend with Isabella is quality time! I work 4 days a week and have Fridays off. That day is all about Caitlin, I don't do chores or anything - just 100% with her! That makes it a little bit easier for me as I'm not overly happy about working instead of being home with her, but like you I didn't have much choice

I've already told DH that I'm not having another baby until we can afford for me to take at least 6mths off!
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Hi Shell, what a tough situation to be in. I went back to work when Hannah was 6 weeks old, but only on Saturday mornings and I expressed so that DH could look after her. He was full-time student during the week and picked up some work on Saturday afternoons as well. I quit when I was 30ish weeks pregnant with Briona, I was just too tired to look after a toddler and be so pregnant and work part time as well.

Just last week I started work again, 30 hours a week, but this time my DH is SAHD and we've decided to do this arrangement until the end of the year and then reconsider what to do (pretty much, who will work) next year. I don't want to put my kids into care. Kryssi is 9mos, Briona would probably be ok, and Hannah would thrive in something like a PORSE environment vs daycare (less people).

The first thing I'd do if I were you, is relook at your budget. Go see a budget advisor, they can not only give you pointers that you might have missed but they can also check that you are getting all the supplements etc that you should be. Pay off your DH's Student Loan (I'm presuming here) at the minimum rate, if you have a mortgage, go to a mortgage broker (for free) and check if there's anything you can do to reduce that. If you are renting, can you move into a cheaper place for a year?

If you go back to work you'll need to look at your accomodation supplement and WFF payments (OT, that short form always looks like WTF to me ) and how they will change, as well as petrol and work clothes cost and bottles/sterilisers/formula (if you do formula) etc.


I hope that didn't sound negative. I don't mean to be, it's just there are so many hidden things. Just with going back to work last week, I pretty much didn't fit any of my work clothes from previously so I've already spent $200 to update my wardrobe!

All the best for making the right decision for your family
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well I went back parttime when Ella was 2 months plus - but then she was in office with me. I went back full time when she was 5 months. I dropped down feeds, introduced bottle more and once i started work she was down to morning and night feed which was great for both of us. She has thrived in Daycare - but having said that (and anyone on here who has met who will attest to it) she is the most sociable kid you will meet so DC is her playground!!!

Honestly leaving your child is hard but the joy i get from having a brain back instead of watching Dr phil etc and getting stuck with housework all day or just shopping (it gets boring come on!!) is worth it...and I have money back in my pocket cause we all know $300 odd a week of paid leave sucks!

We dont qualify for diddly squat and my income means we have a great lifestyle...and can provide Ella with diversity in life in so many more areas...so in my view....go for it....you will always be mum, you will be a working mum which is awesome....and you will treasure that precious time you spend with bubba so much more....Are you mad? NO!!!!!
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I don't know what you do for a living but is it something that you could do from home? I'm not going back to work till Spencer is 7 months but we had saved money for me to take time off. We have absolutely gone through our finances with a fine tooth comb so that when I go back it can be doing the least amount of hours possible so I can spend max amount of time with Spencer. I have also spoken to my work and arranged to mostly work from home, that way I can work around DH's shifts and use the least amount of daycare as poss.
I didn't think I would mind putting him in daycare but now he is here I really can't face handing him over to someone I don't know. (Sorry probably not a helpful comment). I think when he is a bit older and can interact with other kids I won't mind.

I don't think you are mad for thinking about returning to work, but I would make sure that you have had a really good look at your finances first and see if there is anything you can cut out/cut down on.

There was a thread a little while ago on money saving ideas maybe have a look through that for inspiration - I got using chux cloths as wipes from in there.

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I did this huge reply to this and lost the whole lot

anyway the short of it is:

I have just gone back to work. we had the luctury that I don 'need' to go back to work. i wanted to. I work 10 hours a week (I left full time) and travel 20 minutes to get there. Some would say is it worth it? Yup it is as I need to get out and use my brain more. I know Rhyley is not missing out as I still have time to spend with him. And also he is socializing with other kids that he has to 'share' with as my older two will just give him what he wants. As for where he goes he goes to a ladie 2 of my friends take their kids there so i know sheis good and shes just down the road.

so NOPE don't think you are mad. Cause then i am mad for going to work when i don't have to - and I am not claiming I am mad LOL
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Me and DH had huge discussions tonight about all this and we have (sort of) agreed that we may need to move back to Christchurch (we moved to Nelson in April this year cos DH got a job that he really needed to advance his career) to get us back on track. As I have 12 months maternity leave from my current job back in CHCH, I could easily pick up a shift or 2 (I'm an RN) whenever, and there are always extra shifts going if I wanted them.

If we stayed here, I'd have to go through the whole process of looking for another job, travelling miles to get to it, trying to get Bella into daycare, etc. etc. Once DH has a years worth of experience from his current job, he will be able to get another job easily and already has contacts in CHCH. But man, I am soooooooooo sick of moving (this would be our 8th shift in 5 years ) The budget advice is pretty good Teresa, but I'm pretty much a stickler when it comes to money, we have always been really good at saving money, not spending too much etc. and as I am breastfeeding, using cloth nappies, not using the car, paying low rent, I don't see where else we could save any more...?

As you can see, this whole situation has me a little stressed, and I'm up at 2am too stressed to get back to sleep . Oh, and trying to sell a bunch of things on TradeMe to make some money


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Come over here! My DH is an accountant and hes doing contracting earning absurd amounts of money. We're doing it for a few years to save enough so we can come back and buy a house.
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ShellandBella,

I am currently planning my day care for when i return to work. Before getting pregnant i thought that it would be really easy to leave my child in daycare at 3 months but am now realising that it is going to be tough. I have to go back to work, as with you guys finances dictate.

My only comfort is that the daycare is a really good place, i drop in at odd times to get a feel for the place. The children there are really sociable and the staff are friendly and have a policy of giving you written updates of your childs activities etc everyday.

If you do decide to go back to work and take the option of daycare just check it out and don't worry about asking them stupid questions, spend some time at the day care to get a feel for it and to help your child settle. Good luck in your decision.

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