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MrsMojo
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:44am |
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My partner earns around $400 a week after tax plus about $200 from good old Helen (I think) and we do fine. We always have food, the kids wear clean clothes and we are warm. I don't understand how 40k isn't enough we would be living like kings with that sort of money. |
You actually get more cash in the hand than someone who earns $40k (after tax and kiwisaver). Assuming they don't have a student loan and pay 4% into kiwisaver someone on $40k gets $589 cash in the hand.
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IVFGirl1111
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 8:49am |
We often wonder how we are going to cope with going down to one wage, we earn reasonable wages and dont have a lot of debt - but then we did a budget from Stacey and I seriously have NO idea where all our money goes! We totally live to what we earn and that is going to change NOW! Lol.
Someone on $40k and doing the 2% kiwisaver gets $604 in their hand.
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:17am |
MrsMojo wrote:
Oh gosh, how embarrassing - although the post was taken out of context (the person I was responding to had previously said she uses the dryer regularly and has 2 mobile phones and wants to keep both as she uses both etc I should have really clarified the statement though plus looking at the WFF payment table her partners income is actually somewhere between $0-$36k). |
So sorry... I really didn't mean to embarrass you! I've been worrying about money a bit too much, I think, and I just had a wee panic
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MrsMojo
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:27am |
LOL, no worries Hopes. That'll teach me for not being clearer when I post.
Oh and don't panic, you'll be fine.
My sis has two kids, pays for transport from Featherston to Wellington for university 5 days per week, plus the cost of course material etc doesn't receive any WFF or support from her childrens fathers and lives on about $15k per year (and still manages to put the kids through afterschool activities like ballet and athletic club etc). She did receive a small scholarship this year which helped.
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 10:03am |
I personally couldnt live (and support another adult and Isabelle) on 40k ... we pay more than half that on rent  ...
But we live in Auckland and chose to live in an inner city suburb so I can be close to home....I presume if we lived further out it would be cheaper, but then again Id have to fork out for fuel
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 11:43am |
Having a baby and going on to one income made me realise just how much money we used to waste, and on what I really don't know!!
We live very comfortably off DH's income and have a rather substantial mortgage in rural Auckland. I was petrified how we were going to afford to have a baby, but honestly we have more surplus money to splash out on things now than we did before we had Lauren and yet our income has dropped by 50% (being what I earnt, we earn't pretty much the same dollars). How on earth does that work, I guess its just because I am more money conscious now, yet before Laruen we would buy things just for the sake of it!
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 1:22pm |
We have always spent = to what we earn. When we lived in London for 2 years and didnt have any kids, we earnt heaps and spent it! I have boots and jackets that cost over 100 pounds each, and a bra/undie set that was 60 pounds, we ate out all the time, went out conutless holidays etc! I didnt think twice about these purchases at the time, but now they seem extremely extravegant!
I havent worked at all for almost 2 1/2 years, but we cope fine on DH wage + WFF. We get $146 a week from WFF, and Dh earns $650 a week after tax, up until a year ago he was getting quite a bit less too, with no chance of overtime. He does do at least 5 hrs overtime most weeks as well, and sometimes more. Plus he now has a work van which we can use weekends, so that saves us from the expense of running 2 cars.
We do get help from MIL too- she buys almost all of Islas clothing and always has- we just buy shoes/socks/singlets/hats, so thats is a massive help.
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 2:03pm |
argh i have just worked out our mortgage is 36k a year. holy crap. without paying our mortgage we live off $349 a week which is 18k a year. that is power, fone, life insurance, spending, MySky, food etc.. with the baby added in it will be 20k so only 2k up on what we have now. so depending on what your rent is it can totally be done. my sister has overloaded her kids with toys and presents and stuff they dont need and they are definitly over stimulated wheras DH had hardly anything, not cos they didnt have money, they just werent spoiled and him and his brother and real patient, real calm, chilled out guys who dont need heaps of stuff so i personally reckon simple is better. everyone wants to buy the world for the kids but its not necisarily a bad thing if you cant
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 6:14pm |
When we were in SA and heard what people said babies cost I really didnt know how we were going to afford it. I was still studying and didnt work. Hubby was working but not earning a huge salary by any means (he should have been paid a lot better for what he was doing but couldnt get out but for his age he was earning good if that makes all sense).
I was really freaked and worked out budgets and how much a kid will cost us. Got pregnant and worried even more about how I was going to afford this kid and how we will make ends meet and later buy a house ect. Child came and I realised it is all relative to what you needed. Bought her clothes at cheaper places and everyone commented on where did you get that. That is so cute. Didnt see that (obviously in the upmarket shops they were buying).
She was playing with stuff around the house and toys we bought now and then but not nearly the stuff you get for babies here. Got over here and he did earn a nice salary but not as much as someone with his experience (due to us being new here and not having kiwi experience). Got 3 increases in 2 years and to be quite honest we cant afford a house as prices are ridicilous over here in auckland but at the same time we are not getting anything from the government (residents now).
But a child can cost you as much or as little as you want. I started looking this year at how much my child has now. She has toys in the lounge, her room taking over the study here and there and the garage is full of toys packed for the next child and waiting for her for Christmas and she is not even 3 years old yet. It is actually too much. What they play with it now and then but not that much. She has a few favourite toys and they usually are not the big expensive electronic toys.
So next year it is experiences for us. But really they cost a lot less than what you think. As babies I feel they need a place to sleep, something to eat or drink and nappies. And toys can be a wooden spoon and a pot ect. They dont need all teh fancy baby stuff and you might use it for like 6 months and then it gathers dust.
You will be totally fine.
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Posted: 29 October 2008 at 9:44pm |
If you want some pointers on getting started,
- put all your income into a savings account and learn to live off your DH's income only
- Make up a budget together and learn to stick to it
- Even if you only save $20/week (of your DH's income), learn to put something aside for a rainy day so that it's not all spent every week
When we started out having kids we had a mortgage and student income. Nowadays we are on one income and it is less than $40K, but it's doable for us and we aren't lacking for anything (except maybe a plasma TV  )
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Posted: 30 October 2008 at 10:37am |
MrsMojo wrote:
RachandJack wrote:
My partner earns around $400 a week after tax plus about $200 from good old Helen (I think) and we do fine. We always have food, the kids wear clean clothes and we are warm. I don't understand how 40k isn't enough we would be living like kings with that sort of money. |
You actually get more cash in the hand than someone who earns $40k (after tax and kiwisaver). Assuming they don't have a student loan and pay 4% into kiwisaver someone on $40k gets $589 cash in the hand. |
Yes but they would also recieve some WFF too
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Posted: 30 October 2008 at 12:58pm |
We can live off 40k, our morgage is $350 a week and thats over half over dh's pay, and we get WFF.
We also have a bit of savings that we dont let go under 2k for emergencys.
When all us kids were still at home with Mum and dad 7 of us lived off $500 a week. that was 5x school fees, 4x ballet class fees, swimming, music, clothes, food power internet, phones.......... i dont know how they did it.
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 1:13pm |
i read through other threads about money a while back and was thinking to myself! "gez why are these people saying they cant afford! they earn enough!" but then looking into it further! i just cant! fathem how much a mortgage costs in places like auckland etc!!!! wow! i can see why they say that its hard to live on one income with a mortgage of $400-$500 PW etc!!!
Our mortgage is $260 PW and we have a lovely house on a huge section between new houses! (granted we are still in Kawerau regardless! lol)
We live on $900 PW (DH income and WFF) and some weeks we are short!!!???  i need to get my A into G and be more vigilant about saving etc!!
I definately think you spend what you earn!!!
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 1:43pm |
I totally agree with what everyone else has been saying, when I got preg, DH started panicking about money - he earns about $37 K (me under $35K). We've got a tiny mortgage compared to most, just over $200 a week, but we're renovating slowly with what money we have, which takes up most of the rest. But we still live pretty comfortably (just try not to waste money!).
Anyway, we'll be on just DH's salary next year, and while it will be tight, I think we'll be fine. Young babies don't need heaps and heaps of toys, and personally think it would be bad for a kid to grow up thinking they can get anything they want when they want it. This way the kid will learn the value of money. I'm buying baby stuff at the moment as we can afford to, and have managed to get the expensive stuff like a cot and stroller 2nd hand off Trademe. Cheaper, and nothing wrong with it!
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Posted: 31 October 2008 at 3:26pm |
I'm a bit worried about the adjustment as joint we earn nearly 100k and we don't have a mortgage. I earn more than DH and I also loose the company car (gas incl) and the company Visa when I go on leave. It's all a bit scary but I took all of this into consideration when I took 6 months rather than three. I'm sure we'll be ok, I just have to learn new ways not to spend money lol. It's going to be hard cause if I see something I like, I've always bought it but now I'm thinking...."That's 5 packets of Nappies" or "Baby food for a month".
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Posted: 01 November 2008 at 8:46am |
Don't stress too much about it Dana and Hopes, it's very do-able! I'm in a different boat in that we started off on one income thanks to a long-term illness  , and DH's work was sporadic... not easy times for sure! And that lasted right up until Ella was born! So we both made that adjustment early, but it did mean that we had nothing put away for baby stuff, so that caused a fair bit of stress and arguments at the time! Even still, DH's work picked up, we're both a bit handy with some things, I'm a complete bargain-hunter (never pay full price for Pumpkin Patch I tell you, never! Ha ha). And with a small family income we had everything we needed and our baby had a rediculously nice wardrobe, a beautiful room and too many toys, which at the end of the day are all 'extras' and don't make baby any happier anyway. So yep, it's really do-able! There's some threads around here on tips for saving money for lots of ideas too. I'm thinking they'll cost more as teens than they do now, but of course by then we won't have to pay for baby-sitting
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