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Jay_R
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 5:59pm |
Yeah, I was pretty annoyed!
I was getting freaked that there might have been some weirdo stalking me!
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Posted: 04 November 2008 at 7:16pm |
Did they explain why they'd called 16 times !?
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 9:25am |
monikah wrote:
yea i had a stalker too so my number is withhelh but anyone who ring 16 times is cleary not a business or professional etc... i know any class of annoying call can be tracked hapilly by the police because it is a form of badgering/terrorizing/ (cant think of the right word) |
No...for the police to be involved with phone calls there has to be verbal threats being made.
If they are just hanging up, it is a matter for the phone company.
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 9:29am |
KylahsMum wrote:
The NZ law is, you have to note down 4 examples, exact day and time and call your provider, they have to be within 7 days, and you have to log the trace within 7 days of the first example.
You have to give permission for your provider to disclose your number to the person doing it and they are told to stop. If they keep doing it, they get warned again and 3rd time they loose their connection and any future connections with that provider.
Due to confidentuality laws, they cannot give you the number of the person calling you, or disclpse who they are.
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In my situation I only had 2 calls that I reported to the police. I had more to add to the complaint after I had contacted the police because they kept coming. But it was only a couple days before they told me who had made the calls. I didn't have to give permission to 'a provider'....and not too sure what you actually meant by that lol
Anyway, the police told me who had made the calls. I wanted to press charges, but the guy who did it was going to court the next day anyway on another matter and went to jail.
It was only afterwards I was told I should have still pressed charges regardless of that. But I was just glad it was over.
Oh...and I didn't know the guy personally.....it was my exhusbands girlfriends brother....sicko!
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 10:33am |
Nefertiti wrote:
KylahsMum wrote:
The NZ law is, you have to note down 4 examples, exact day and time and call your provider, they have to be within 7 days, and you have to log the trace within 7 days of the first example.
You have to give permission for your provider to disclose your number to the person doing it and they are told to stop. If they keep doing it, they get warned again and 3rd time they loose their connection and any future connections with that provider.
Due to confidentuality laws, they cannot give you the number of the person calling you, or disclpse who they are.
Sorry chick! Must be really annoying. |
In my situation I only had 2 calls that I reported to the police. I had more to add to the complaint after I had contacted the police because they kept coming. But it was only a couple days before they told me who had made the calls. I didn't have to give permission to 'a provider'....and not too sure what you actually meant by that lol
Anyway, the police told me who had made the calls. I wanted to press charges, but the guy who did it was going to court the next day anyway on another matter and went to jail.
It was only afterwards I was told I should have still pressed charges regardless of that. But I was just glad it was over.
Oh...and I didn't know the guy personally.....it was my exhusbands girlfriends brother....sicko! |
If you go to the police and have a real reason for them to trace they will, like threatening, abusive etc. I work for a phone company and that is the NZ law for someone requesting a trace for nusience calls through their provider. If threatening then we send them to the police as it can be dealt with better. I have had a million and one calls to this nature. Of course the police can disclose any info they like, but as a reputable telephone company its against the confidentuality act for us to disclose this info.
As joshies case was nucience and not threatening, and she asked if she could get it traced, i thought id let her know what she has to do.
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 10:37am |
Another time, I have had nusience calls with people hanging up and was told by my phone company (was with telecom back then) that there was nothing they could do, except change my phone number. Which was more hassle than what it was worth. We just hung up on the ppl and eventually they lost interest...and we kept the phone off the hook at night so they'd get bored calling lol.
Has there been a change in this over recent years?
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 10:59am |
Yup, but you have to have 4 dates and times, within 7 days. Its the same with telecom as they are the onles who do the trace for us. But if you have called the number thats making the nucience calls to you, they wont do a thing.
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 11:20am |
lol DH had something like this and he can't answer his fone while hes working so he left his fone at home so i could answer it. Turns out it was vodafone but they wouldnt talk to me coz they wanted him so they kept calling and calling about 10 times a day for a week and they got him one day on his lunch break . All they wanted was for him to upgrade to a contract plan.
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:17pm |
If you have the number that the calls are coming from, the Police *should* take a complaint - it can be classed as Misuse of a Telephone (whether you have referred it to your provider or not).
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 12:39pm |
The police won't unless someone has made a threat to you!
Just calling and not leaving a message is not misuse - no matter how many times. As the reason can easily be that they don't want to leave a message...there is nothing against the law about that.
So no, the police will not take a complaint if the person is just hanging up.
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Posted: 06 November 2008 at 9:20pm |
I had something similar a month ago, kept getting a phone call from a withheld number every morning around the same time and i kept missing it cos i was at work, drove me crazy (im one of those people who HAVE to answer the call just incase it could be something interesting) The days I watched my phone waiting for the call it didnt bloody ring....finally got it after about 2 weeks and it was a carpet cleaner from when we moved a year ago asking if we wanted out carpets done this year. Funny thing was the guy was an arrogant prat and we ended up having a fight about how much he charged me (almost twice he had quoted!!!!!) so even if i didnt have new carpet there was no way in hell I would ever use him again!
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Posted: 06 November 2008 at 10:21pm |
Nefertiti wrote:
The police won't unless someone has made a threat to you!
Just calling and not leaving a message is not misuse - no matter how many times. As the reason can easily be that they don't want to leave a message...there is nothing against the law about that.
So no, the police will not take a complaint if the person is just hanging up. |
I guess it depends on which station you go to and how amicable the cop / clerk you talk to is feeling on the day
AFAIK it comes down to individual circumstances, and whether the individual is feeling harassed or not also.
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Posted: 07 November 2008 at 2:37am |
I called the Police more than once and got severa different people and the response was the same...they won't deal with it because lives weren't being threatened.
Oh well..
And for the life of me, I can't think was AFAIK is lol....mind you, its 2.35am, so it might come to me later lol
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Posted: 07 November 2008 at 7:45am |
That's why it can often be better to walk into a station and make a complaint that way. I think it is a bit off that it is a common response - these 'little things' can often be a red flag for something worse... I know I always tried my best to treat each person with respect and understanding *shrug* but anyway!
And 'AFAIK' = As Far As I Know
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Posted: 07 November 2008 at 9:57am |
You are right that it can sometimes lead to something worse. But like everything here in NZ...they don't take action until its too late.
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Posted: 07 November 2008 at 3:15pm |
The Malisious (sp?) call centre will take your complaint and trace it if you have the exact times you got called (within a minute or so), you need to have 4 in a row (within 24 hours) to have it done and they only operate Mon-Fri 8am-4pm.
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