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Not getting into everything else but had to laugh that all pork was on special at pak and save yesterday and they had masses of it.... to be honest, seeing the doco did put me off a little in eating it and i didnt buy pork this week and will probably look out for free-range pork next time.



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i suppose thats why i was so shocked about the whole thing. i make a special effort to only buy nz pork and bacon assuming it was farmed in a way i agree more with.

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Yeah it would be ideal if it could be spca approved as well as saying that it was free range. This is what I always looked for in the UK as some of the free range chicken farms were as bad if not worse than the caged ones as they just had masses of chickens crammed into a coup, so technically they were free as they weren't caged but in reality they still had no room to move.

The other problem of course is all the things that pig products are in and only a teeny proportion if any would be from free range pigs. I'm talking pet foods etc, so it makes it really hard to be entirely free range about it, but then if the only pork that sells is free range stuff then I suppose all the by products would by default end up being from free range sources as well.

I"m sure there was something else I was gonna say damn toddler and baby brain...lol

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I agree cuppatea, when in the uk we tried to buy free range, and then it turned out free range didn't really mean free range and I just felt like it was getting really silly.

There was a Jamie Oliver programme a while ago that showed how hard it was even if you studied the label to make sure you were buying good meat, so many stickers etc misleading you on purpose.


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I think it's great that so many of you have experience with farm animals and can share your information with us who only see what's on tv.

One thing that I can't help but wonder is how many people who say they will ONLY buy free range from now on..will actually do it, I guess, forever? And not just for the next couple of months while the news story is hot. (Not meaning people here on this board, but people in general who say it after seeing the news story)..

Personally, it saddens me to hear of animals being mistreated, but at the same time, I know it won't effect my shopping habits. I won't pretend that it will.

Maybe in my next lifetime I'll come back at a battery hen as punishment..
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Dammit, I missed this thread until now I have strong feelings (in some areas, anyway).

There were a couple of things that they showed on TV that were a bit disturbing. The pig with overgrown trotters, for example, or the other sow that was lying down and looked pretty crook. The crook sow is probably something you'd get on any farm at some time (we get sick... pigs do too) but those trotters should have been looked at for sure!

BUT the ridiculous over-dramatisation that TV one gave it made me so frustrated. T_Rex gave a great example, so I'll quote it...

Originally posted by T_Rex T_Rex wrote:

If I don't come quick enough to feed them, they start squealing awfully - you'd think I was torturing them. Sometimes they bite the bars on the gate. So you could say they chew bars, froth at the mouth (with so much saliva) and scream a tortured scream. And why? Because they want to be fed. [For the record they are on the plump side, and certainly aren't starving each day at feeding time, just greedy]. So all of those behaviours those pigs showed were just normal attention-seeking behaviour of pigs hoping to be fed. It was just media hype to personify that to indicate "tortured pigs."


That 'tortured screaming' they kept talking about? That's. Just. Normal. Pig. Noise. Full stop!!!! Mum and Dad have free-range pigs, and they make the same noises when they're hungry or you disturb them. Obviously none of the people working on that programme had ever heard a pig in distress!!!!

My cousins have a piggery (a very small one). For most of their lives, the pigs get to run round and wallow in mud to their hearts content. A few days before they're due to have piglets, they take them into the shed where it's warm and dry, and put them in a crate so they don't squash the poor little things when they have them. No, they can't trun round, but they seriously don't seem to mind. They lay flopped on their side feeding their wee piggies making the odd contended grunt, for most of the part. They'll hop up and make a racket at feeding time, or if you disturb them, but that's about it. And once the piglets are big, they go back out to the paddock (where they roll in mud and look disgustingly cared for, unless you realise that that's what they do by choice).

Anyway, my basic opinion is that TV One had some OK points... there were some things (like those overgrown trotters) that aren't good. I don't like the idea of pigs being treated like that. But they ruined the story with poor research and over-dramatisation. Seriously... now I don't know what to think of stories they run. If they can't take a couple of moments to research what a happy, healthy pig sounds like, how much truth is in any of their other news stories?

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