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Kazzle 
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 7:57am |
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Rhiannon has been sleeping through the night since she was 6 wks old, but for the past week, she has been waking anywhere from 2-4pm and then waking every 20mins until 6pm.
I know shes not hungry, because as soon as we give her, her dummy she goes straight back to sleep, but as soon as it falls out she wakes up again.
She is also not sleeping much through the day, which is leading her to being over tired...the only way she seems to sleep through the day is if someone is holding her..ie me...and i can not spend all day holding her just so she will sleep.
I am so tired its not funny...any suggestions would be appreciated.
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mum2paris
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 8:35am |
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How old is she now? It may be a growth psurt but if she is happy to settle without a feed then it could be that maybe she is looking for comfort with sucking, she is still prob at an age where she will lose the dummy more than she keeps it in her mouth too.
It could be that maybe it is time to try a new routine with her now that she is getting a little older and instead of having frequent sleeps, draw her out a little and put her down a bit later. We found that after a while the "up for 1 hour only" rule fell by the wayside and the girls would not be as tired at that point, maybe sleep for a little while, then do the wake and doze thing like you are describing, so we left it until they had been up for an hour and a half to try, and it seemed to help.
Also is there anything in the routine or household that has changed?
You could also try and see if it was anything medical - if she's a little snuffly then sleeping might not be the nicest thing and she'll be bound to wake up alot.
Hope something i said can be of help, if not, i am sure the others will have a heap of good advice for you too.
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 9:33am |
Rhiannon is 13wks old, the eat, feed and play in a hour hasnt happened for a long time....she isnt snuffly or anything like that, i just think maybe its a growth spurt...i just wish it would be over with. 
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 9:41am |
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If it was a growth spurt wouldn't she be wanting a feed? I know that some people dont like this idea with littlies, but you could always try leaving her to self-settle, or go in every 10 mins give her a little pat, then go again. Hard work for a few days but fine after that. Well it worked for us anyway...
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 11:33am |
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Sounds like it is time to reassert the daytime routine. You'll probably find that if you can get the daytime naps back you'll break the overtiredness and get her sleeping better at night time. You could try the controlled crying method (make sure she is dry, fed, safely tucked into bed and then leave her for increasing intervals until she goes to sleep). The other thing with the wake and doze pattern is that you could wait five minutes after you hear her stirring to make sure that she is actually ready for up. Sometimes babies will wake up slightly, look around for a minute or two and then put themselves back to sleep. I'd definitely try and get out of the holding her until she sleeps thing - babies need to learn to put themselves to sleep in bed. It's tough for a few days, but as Aimee says, it definitely works.
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Kazzle
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Posted: 12 July 2006 at 3:50pm |
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I never put Rhiannon to down to sleep asleep, and she will settle herself, she just doesnt seem to want to sleep at the moment....
as for the feeding, somedays she will have an extra feed and other days she will want to feed every 3 hours instead of four...but it seems to be settling down again.
She has been very grizzly today, but i have been out, and as soon as i got her home and back into her pram (where she sleeps during the day), she has settled down, and i dont need to move her until 5.30pm when i go and pick kent up from the train station.
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:59am |
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For the first 8 weeks that I had Stella I was completely unable to put her down to sleep without her first falling asleep in my arms, and as soon as i did she would wake up. It was extremely stressful as i was not getting anything done, and would hardly manage a shower. It wasn't until I went to a family centre for breastfeeding issues that they helped me develop a routine, and taught me it was ok to put her down and let her cry, but you do have to catch them at the right time, and they do get used to falling asleep being cuddled, and who wants that at 1 year old?!
I agree with what mum2paris says, try and drag out the awake time as long as u can, before she gets tetchy, then look for the tired signs; yawning, clenched fist, lack of eye contact etc, then put her down.
The patting like aimee joy says works, and it does take a little perserverance to break the bad habits, but once you've got it under control you'll be glad you did.
i really feel for you, i know how tiring it is!! hope it works out.
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Kazzle
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Posted: 13 July 2006 at 10:47am |
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Well after i put Rhiannon down she woke up 20mins later...she finally went back to sleep at 7pm after her feed, i woke her at 9.30pm gave her a bath, and feed her at 10pm, she was in bed and asleep by 10.30pm, she woke for 2secs at 3.30am, and we had to wake her at 6am for her first feed of the day.
she then slept until 9am this morning, when she woke up i changed her, played with her, and feed her, and she is back asleep and has been for the past 1/2hour...so i think she is in catch up mode now.
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Posted: 14 July 2006 at 6:38pm |
Thats great things are sorted for you 
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 11:28am |
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I fully believe that the leaving to settle thing really does work....we had to do it with brroke otherwise we would have gone mental
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 11:55am |
Glad you seem to be getting sorted now!! Rhiannon is a bit older than my little man but he is doing the cat nap thing at the moment, 1/2 an hour and he wakes up and then is exhausted and over tired by night time. The exception to this rule is when I take him out in the car, for some reason he will sleep for HOURS in his carseat!!  We are still getting a full nights sleep though with the odd exception so its ok!! 
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mum2paris
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 2:00pm |
Love the name kiwi mummy - Leo is what we were gonna call our wee girl if she had been a boy. 
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Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:17pm |
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I totally agree with Maree and I think its a good thing to try remember..babies need guidance from us! Not the other way around. Thats when bad habits form when we get that all muddled up.
There is nothing wrong with a baby crying or lying awake for a while getting to know their room and surroundings.... if you know they have been fed and changed and have had plenty of mat/kick time.
they are clever wee people and know exactly what buttons to push to get the desired effects!!
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