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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 30 November 2007 at 6:02pm |
i think its just abuse full stop (the lady my2angels knew i meant....not your husbands!)
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daikini
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Posted: 30 November 2007 at 8:30pm |
I agree that that is an extreme example, and as Paws said, seems to be an abuse of his position as the head of the household.
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caliandjack
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 9:45am |
We are definately in an even partnership, I come from a long line of strong women, and this isn't going to change. We make decisions together, we both have strong opinions but similar ideals and values which usually makes the outcome something we both want. DF does need a bit of pushing from me, or he'd never decide anything.
I guess the submission of women, is where I part company with the teachings of the Christian church. I was born and raised Catholic, parted ways many years ago over the whole single celebate male telling me how to live my life.
I can't believe in something that places me inferior to men.
In the town I live there are a lot of fundamentalist christian groups (morman, exclusive brethern) and its their treatment of women that I just can't reconcile.
Interestingly it was one of our nuns, that helped me to see that the bible isn't always to be taken as a literal translation.
Surely the term 'man' is used to describe humankind not males?
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cuppatea
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 3:47pm |
This is a really interesting topic.
I think me and DH are pretty equal, we talk about everything even the little things and make our decision together. Although sometimes he can be indecisive and just tells me to decide and he will go with it.
I don't think personally I could defer to someone else, it just doesn't fit with my personality I'm extremely independent and self reliant and I would feel cocooned if I knew that someone else had that control over me. Sorry couldn't think of a better way to word it, but I think basically that is what it comes down to no matter how it is flowered up.
Having said that just after I had Spencer I was quite happy to hand the running of the house over to DH so that I could concentrate on looking after bubs and he did a good job as I trusted he would but I wouldn't want it to be like that all the time.
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SMoody
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 5:28pm |
Okay I didnt read the original thread. (seems I dont get as much time lately to be on oh baby, boo hoo and I miss it so much.)
But I am Christian and hubby is a bit different and McKayla's godparents are Muslim. But all of us sort of believe the same thing just differently. On the subject of the wife being submissive we actually think the same. (us and her godparents.)
I believe that a woman is better at certain stuff than a man and that a man is better on other things than a woman. Yes you do get the exceptions and that is totally fine. We are all unique. Now Grant is useless on keeping tabs on books and although he earns the cash I make totally sure the cash is at the right place at the right time for bills to go off. But at the same time I will ask permission to buy certain stuff over a certain amount. (hell I dont even think he will mind but I do it anyway.)
On other things I play the "submissive" part and although he asks my opinion I will go with what he says. Example will be the car we buy or something like that.
With McKayla he has total input but seeing I am the primary caregiver I have sort of more say into this and he follows my lead again there. I really do feel woman and men are made different for a reason so we can compliment each others in those areas.
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