Domestic Violence!!!

Good on you Sterryn for calling, the injured woman will be thanking you (and the other three neighbours) for it.
Emma, thanks for sharing in your post, I thought it was really well thought out and well said. Ditto for others who have contributed to this topic, it's thought provoking, if turning a little controversial!

I don't think you can ever know what people have experience of based on what they say in an internet forum, I'm sure that many people on here have drawn their conclusions from their own experiences and for their own reasons. I for one am not making any assumptions about why or what anyone says here.

My two cents (without wanting to stir, just writing my thoughts!) - as a community (and I am aware that 'community' is a rare commodity these days) I think it is essential that violence is not tolerated, in any form. Therefore what Sterryn did, and what anyone else has done/will do to report or stop violence happening around them is a good thing.
I also agree there needs to be more happening than the immediate reaction to stopping domestic violence. There are some support networks out there but I think they are generally underfunded or inconsistent in different areas of the country.

I also think that in order to get to the root of whatever personal problem or issue is causing a lot of domestic violence, the individual or individuals involved have to have some investment in wanting to change, and that is not always the case. You are the only one who can change your behaviour, but again there needs to be support to help those who do want to change.   
That said, I also believe that it is important for family and community to be providing that support as much as government or other organisations. We are responsible for our society. But I'm also aware that this is an idealistic situation that isn't reality in most cases.

Glow, I do find your posts hard to read because the tone doesn't sound right to me, but I will try harder to not read so much into them - my problem more than yours I think!   One question - what are the new laws you are talking about?

Glow wrote: Obviously that is a regular thing at that house, but will it get to the root of their problems or will it create more problems for them.. I have anger & frustration problems & tend to raise my voice in the heat of a moment. Ive been doing anger management & frustrations stuff (im not really an angry person just a yeller, coz nobody listens LOL) Apparently even that is against the law these days.. We are going to be living in 1 crazy mixed up world were our kids have no boundaries & parents go to jail for disciplining, coz people think the know & not the right help is given to them What next, government telling us what to feed our kids & how to dress them? ... just my fcw

fcw means fifty cents in my language sorry for my grammar & emo like elmo emotions. No im not rude!!
My view was that this is a crazy mixed up world were the government dont even know what they are doing coz of MMP

Sterryn wrote: Glow, you are right, the police know this address very well. In saying that this is the first time I have rung as this was well past yelling. etc etc

lizzle wrote: i don't like the comment "will it get to the root of the problem or cause more problems for them" - I'm sorry, but if I can hear someone getting beaten up, or whatever, my thought is going to be for the safety pf the children, not "oh, i wonder if this will cause them more problems".

Glow wrote: Ok... how can you make a law & not have things put in place for those kind of people to go to? Where do they go instead & at what level is their problem? Will they get the help the really need or will the just get discriminated against put in jail & our tax money wasted? No it might not cause them more problems but our country YES!! Just like the innocent people who get charged for crimes the diddnt really commit. Not the case in the case however..... Ive seen some shocking schitt because of this stupid so called law & you know what no matter the law people are always going to break it

Can you see my emotion & if you dont believe.. go back & look at the post first hand it aint been edited???
Yep Kelly hit the nail on the head about how close to home this is for me. Infact i can even say i have given & recived some sort of violence. Family Violence!!! I know from my past that i need to deal with MY stuff. Tis my prob & i do deal with it everyday

OK & what are the current adds about mental illness & DV portraiting to you??? What about the yellow pages add with that very brain washing music? What about the BK add???
Can you see me smiling coz yep everybody cries on the inside!!

ETA another And say how can anyone hurt anyone, anyhow?? Old people, homo's etc?? Sexuality & race???? Because people are different?

Edited by Glow

I'm just confused

Time for bed soon obviously!

If it was the new anti-smacking laws, I think they are ineffective either way. They won't stop domestic violence but I think it's a bit of a push to say that people will be arrested for smacking their kids..although I haven't read the actual law myself. From what I understand it was changed to be more along the lines of removing the loophole for people to get away with beating their kids using 'reasonable force'. To me, saying it will cause innocent people who don't harm thier children to be thrown in jail (a line I constantly hear used by those against the law change) is an exaggeration for shock value.
Call me naive if you want, I just think there's been a bit of a broohaha around this law and it's an arguement that has been done to death.

Yeah, me too. I think I started off well but anything else I've added is a little addled. Definitely time for bed...bowing out.

its a pity your bowing out mazzy,because i have to say i thought your post was one of the most well written,well thought out posts ive ever read on here.
And emma,as mazzy said thankyou for sharing your story, it too (as always with your posts) was very well written and intelligent,and its never easy talking about personal stuff like that, but you were clearly saying it to make emphasise your points with some experience facts, without asking for sympathy,it shows me how much youve achieved and i admire you very much.

well done the both of you

(gosh i sound like a kiss ar*e lol)

Sterryn, I think you did a great thing. I would absolutely call the cops if I thought someone was being hurt or needed help.

Glow, your posts confuse me. Do you think that in a similar situation someone should not get involved? I do not believe that anyone innocent has been sucessfully prosecuted with the anti smacking bill, but then again I guess my view could be considered distorted as Andy is a cop. "just MY fcw"

Once again i did not say what you think i said!!!
You probably think that coz im different & was brought up with another language- hence i dont relate well to a language with words that have many meanings & how & what you write could mean different things.
Believe what you wana believe coz our NZ history has been sanitised in a big way!!!

Thanks MinK8 for just knowing what i know & understanding