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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 8:06am |
I have smacked (on the hand or nappied bottom) and hate myself for it! I agree with Nikki...it seems insane to use violence to correct violence, even if you are not hitting hard enough for it to hurt it's still hitting.
We used the naughty spot up until last night when we aquired a naughty chair.
She gets 3 warnings and then 1 minute on the naughty chair.
And yes even at her age it works, far more than if I have lost my temper and smacked her.
I did used to think smacking was fine but now seeing the results first hand I have done a total 180 and don't see it necessary at all.
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 6:35pm |
Paw's I do agree, but seriously the naughty corner just won't work with Mikey he really has no idea maybe it a boy thing.
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 8:51pm |
I haven't witnessed what you are going through Deb, but I just want to discuss about the naughty corner "not working" - I don't think we can expect a young toddler to sit in the corner and look remorseful for what they have done. I think the intention is (if anything) is to not reward them with attention (which is what yelling and carrying on/hitting would give them.)
If you mean that he just plain won't sit in the corner, then it just might take time (if that's the way you want it to work). I mean, at that age they hardly have the attention span to deal with things, which is why I think understanding (or atleast beginning to be shown) the consequences of their actions is more important.
The other thing that I have come across people talking about recently, though I think this is for older kids, is that their "punishment" is the loss of their freedom. The kids have their 'right to choose' taken from them and they are shadowed by a parent for a period of time. This is to create a bond/open the means of communication between the parent and child. I need to read up on it more to be able to talk about it properly, but I like the theory behind it.
(Ooo really off topic! Sorry Robyn!)
Edited to fix italics. argh.
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:04pm |
HAnnah gets asked to do something, if she doesnt then I tell her, still misbehaving then she has to sit on her bed. I dont care what she does while she sits on her bed, she can sing and be merry for all I care. All I want to achieve from it is time for me to cool down so I dont lose my temper, and show her that her misbehaviour isnt acceptable and she doesnt get attention for it. After a few minutes I go in and ask her if shes ready to do whatever I had asked - most of the time she does and we hav ea quick cuddle and then thats over with, but sometimes she decides she isnt ready and she will sit there for longer. Its totally her choice, but she does eventually have to do whatever it was. TBH I dont care if she just goes into her room and plays with her toys, becasue its just us having a break from each other, I dont see it as a punishment, more a time out IYKWIM (denying her my attention).
Ooops, again OT sorry...
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:05pm |
Oh and I should say we have been doing this probably since she was 18 months, maybe a bit before.
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:31pm |
nikkiwhyte wrote:
I haven't witnessed what you are going through Deb, but I just want to discuss about the naughty corner "not working" - I don't think we can expect a young toddler to sit in the corner and look remorseful for what they have done. I think the intention is (if anything) is to not reward them with attention (which is what yelling and carrying on/hitting would give them.)
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This is pretty much what we use it for at this stage although we do follow the supernanny 3 warning technique and still tell her why we put her in the naughty chair.
In the beginning no she never stayed put where we left her but it achieves the result that she does know she has done something we are not happy with and she calms down.
If she is throwing a tantrum it will go for ages if we try to just calm her down...if we put her on the naughty spot and come back 1 mintue later, she calms down and gives us a hug.
It has taken patience though and our determination to implement this right from when it had some effect.
As she gets older and is better able to understand her actions that is when we would expect her to be able to apologise for her behaviour and understand it more fully...right now though it is more cooling off for both sides.
Hope that all makes sense!
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:37pm |
Yeah it does paws and I am a huge supper nanny fan. Alan does know that he needs to say sorry I just don't think he really gets why if that makes scence. I know it sound's like an excuse, but I really think the fact that he is a boy he responds diffiernt to how a girl would.
And as for Mikey he is completly clueless we have tried to ignore the behavour does not alway work tho when is is totally screaming in your ear. we use to put him in his cot till he calmed down except he would keep going to sleep too quick and sleep too much in the day.
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Posted: 18 December 2007 at 9:38pm |
I think that's what I like about Hannah at the moment, is that a warning is enough to prevent the corner even being used. Preventative is so much better than punitive!
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Posted: 19 December 2007 at 7:05am |
nikkiwhyte wrote:
I think that's what I like about Hannah at the moment, is that a warning is enough to prevent the corner even being used. Preventative is so much better than punitive! |
Yeah every so often a 3-2-1 countdown is enough to head off a temper tantrum...not always but occassionally!
loadsakids - can you use someone where else rather than the cot? Even just a spot in the hallway or something?
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