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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:47am |
I was adamant that I wouldnt be starting Tom on solids for as long as possible because it looked like hard work. likewise with formula feeding. popping the boob out seemed so easy. Imagine how mortified I was when the little bugger wanted solids shortly after 4 months
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:05am |
Someone i work with started her son on solids just before he was 3 months old. I couldn't believe it!!!
Crazy .! poor baby.
Good on you mum2 lucas for breastfeeding i am still breastfeeding too about 3 -4 times a days mostly at night!!
Which i have 2 stop as I work fulltime too.
Breastfeeding is hard but worth it. Luke is healthly and well apart from annoying ear infections but that's another story.!!
Luke didn't really take to soilds until 7.5 - 8 months and now loves food
and so exciting just got his first tooth. Well half of it is through!!
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:15am |
Finally the MOH catches up!
I think more emphasis could have been placed on extended breastfeeding... someone has to voice it.
I think 2 years (and beyond) is totally achievable, even if you do work. A 2 year old doesn't need to be fed like a newborn. It'd be whenever you chose/they chose to feed.
I am not saying that extended breastfeeding is for everyone but I do think that there should be a mind shift away from thinking that it is 'wrong' to breastfeed a toddler. (I don't mean anyone here... just in general)
And disclaimer: I finished breastfeeding at 13 months. I didn't advocate extended breastfeeding back then, in fact I thought it was the domain of hippies  I've done a lot more reading and been exposed to a lot more parents who do encourage it and my mind has been changed.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:26am |
Im planning on feeding to 2 and then I'll see.... I always thought it was fo rhippies as well, but hehehe im so not a hippie.
the thing is, someone, NZpiper maybe? can't remember, said about people being uncomfortable feeding or seeing a bigger baby being fed, and thats true, thing here is if more people did it, it would be "the norm" and people wouldn't see it as different. I'm still feeding Charlotte, but she is small, so people don't tend to "look" as it were. Plus, the thing with extended BF is that toddlys don't feed like babies (I think Nikki already said that) they might come up for a drink a few times a day and just have a quick feed to slake the thirst, or they might only feed at bedtimes and inthe morning or maybe even just at night? Trust me, you aren't glued to the couch for an hour each time, lol.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:29am |
I agree that the closer to six months the better, but I also recognise that it doesn't work for all babies.
I think it's stupid though to be starting solids at a really young age (i.e. 4 weeks as posted above).
It's like the woman I heard about recently who was forward facing her baby's carseat by 4 months despite regulations saying 6 months is the earliest they should be forward facing, and recommendations that rear facing should be done as long as possible. i.e. as long as it's safe to be rear facing. Her excuse '4 months is close enough to 6 months that it doesn't matter'. She knew, but she didn't care. Some people don't care, others care but need educating.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:29am |
I'm intending on breastfeeding up until 2 years at the least, I will continue breastfeeding until Lucas doesn't want it anymore (within reason of course). I flop them out wherever, whenever. I'm all for extended breastfeeding ...and on demand. It's an informed decision I made when I became a parent. I am so grateful we have been able to go for this long.
People do give me strange looks when I'm breastfeeding in public, but that is THEIR problem. Lucas is big for his age and I'm small for mine LOL ..does look a little ridiculous. But I do ask friends that I am with etc before I flop my boob out. Last thing I want to do is make them feel uncomfortable.
Scarecrowfarm you are onto something there, I had a friend who did the same thing (re: changing carseat to forward facing). They used the excuse that baby was sitting up early therefore could apparently sit forward facing in a carseat. I think i changed Lucas around at 9-10months.
Also I think thats why guidelines are good, when it was 4-6 months to start solids ...people would be more inclined to start baby at 4 months (because that's when 'everyone else' starts their kids) ...and you'd have the mothers who would go earlier than four months because 'it's close enough to the 4 month mark'. Now that it's 6 months hopefully mothers will hold off on solids for as long as possible (until their kids really are ready and showing signs).
As for the girl I know who started her boy on solids at 4 weeks, she claimed he NEEDED it because he wasn't sleeping through the night ..he needed to fill his tummy up and apparently Formula wasn't doing this(and supposedly bubs father was fed solids from an early age). She was also very anti-breastfeeding. Something about the concept of it being disgusting because baby is intruding on her personal space (whereas I think most of us would agree that it is the most natural and selfless thing any mother can do for their child?)
Hmm can't remember the other thing I was going to say...
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:30am |
I would of liked to see more on extended bfing too, not for me but for everyone else watching. I have had quite a few comments about how sick I was to bf Jack past 6 months  I've learnt my lesson now and I don't tell them how long I plan to bf for.
The thing that annoys me if I try and give the reasons why I plan to breastfeed so long they think I'm attacking them about formula when they started it
Anyway I have a lot thicker skin this time round and I'll bf anywhere I don't really care what people think and will continue to do this as long as I bf.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:38am |
You got attacked for wanting to bf past 6 months? Seriously? You can't win now: 'breast is best' then 'ew thats gross they're too old'.
I have an issue with it when they're grown ups: 'bitty' from Little Britain anyone?
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:38am |
Thats good to hear rachandjack. I hate how people think they have the right to judge our parenting decisions.
I get quite the opposite most of the time, especially from older women etc. When they ask if Lucas is breastfed & I say yes they are really supportive & encouraging.
But I have had A LOT of FF mums trying to convince me that Lucas should go onto formula re: not sleeping through the night. 'It will fill his tummy and sustain him for longer'...
After a while I decided NOT to complain that he wasn't sleeping through the night, I'd far rather continue breastfeeding ...even if it means I have to wake 2-3 times a night to BF Lucas. But hey in saying that my boy slept through 8 hours without a feed last nite  (first time woohoo)
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:40am |
LOL Emz ....sometimes I call it 'bitty'.
Lucas is just as bad as that guy on Little Britain, he walks up to me and pulls my top down when he wants 'bitty' hehe
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:07pm |
Woohoo- go Lucas for sleeping 8 hrs (sorry a bit off topic)
I am still b/f Ella and have now decided to just carry on b/f until she decides to self wearn. I never planned to be still b/f it just happened and I feel very lucky that we have been able to continue. And Yes I do get looks/comments from people when they are ask if i am STILL b/f and and when I plan on wearning her, but I have learnt to ignore them.........if it is working for both of us why stop????? It does seem like you can't win with some people....
as for solids I started Ella when she was 4 1/2 months and haven't had any problems with allegeries etc....BUT it definitely didn't help her sleeping at night and I think in hindsight I probably could have waiting a bit longer and for future babies I would try and wait until at least 5 months (if not 6).
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:10pm |
hehe i remember when C was about 8 months, she had been having a nap with me on my bed and i fell asleep and woke up to find that she'd pulled my top up and was having a feed, very strange thing to wake up to but so cute, and one of my favourite memories of her
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:11pm |
They said breastfeeding for a year is what they will be pushing as well as solids after 6 mths.
All i have to say is advise parents but dont knock them if they chose otherwise. Both me and DP were fed solids from 8ish weeks and we are both fine also me and my sis were breastfed and our youngest sister was formula fed yet those of us breastfed were sicker so there is both theories blown out of the water.
I agree 4 weeks for solids is too early thats why there are signs you are advised you should look for to know when a baby is ready to start and that is what should be pushed rather than an age as everyone says all babies are different.
In the end we are the mothers and the majority of us will make the decisions best for our children taking into consideration the information we have been given.
I know they say these are going to be just recommendations but the reason im so fired up over this is the plunket nurse i have asked me at josh's 3 mths check if i had considered giving josh solids the way she asked me i thought she was going to suggest i should start them as josh is a very big boy. I said i didnt want to until he showed hungry signs and would probably be around 5mth otherwise as i as seen the watties 4-6mth jars then she blasted me and lectured me on how before 6mths was too early and that all the guidelines were going to be changes as well as all the labels on the jars and that i was under no circumstances to start him on solids before 6mths. I brought 2 jars on my way home from that visit because i was so angry with how i had just been treated (i didnt use them until just on 4 mths as josh was showing all the hungry signs not to try and fill him up he was already sleeping through)
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:13pm |
Sorry my post wasnt suppose to seem so angry i just get so worked up about it because of how my plunket nurse treated me even the look she gave me when i said i formula feed and the way she said Why??
I thought plunket was suppose to support and advise not belittle and force their ideas on you
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:15pm |
It's amazing how different peoples reactions are. I breastfed until just over 14months and at that time Elle stopped of her own accord and I had no discomfort what-so-ever so it was natural and easy for both of us. I found I had 100% support and if anything got judged more for stopping even though it was a natural thing for us and I was pleased to go for 14 months.
Elle wouldn't take solids until 7 months and wasn't really into it until 9/10.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 2:34pm |
I don't think people need to justify their reasons why they formula feed or breastfeed, or even how long they breastfeed for.
I get a lot of surprised looks now because I'm breastfeeding a 16 month old while pregnant. My mum keeps on telling me I should wean. Really it's nobody's business but the parents.
I do think the closer to 6 months a child is before introducing solids, the better due to the reduction in allergies and food sensitivities, however there are often good reasons for introducing them earlier. I ended up introducing it at 5 months with Lucy. My friend introduced at 4 months, and boy was he a super hungry kid. He gobbled it all down and demanded more. At the end of the day the information needs to be available to parents, but the final choice needs to be left up to them, and they shouldn't be belittled for the choices they're making unless the child is clearly not benefiting from. Case in point, force feeding a 5 month old who is tongue thrusting and trying to refuse it indicates to me that child isn't ready for it yet.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 3:42pm |
I was one of the moms that was totally going to wait the 6 months. Ha until this one at freaking just over 4 months grabbed a marsmallow easter egg out of my hand and swallowed it (before hand she was totally into seeing us eat and will almost drool)
Well pediatrician just said to give food to her and let her feed herself. We started off slowly.
With extended breastfeeding well I am still breastfeeding her. Will do it in public if need be although we are down to a max of two feeds a day. When she get up or to to sleep at night and once during the day.
I really get some bad comments and funny thing is most is from our family itself. (on Grants side.)They quickly keep their mouth shut when I give them my explanation.
Feel free to use it. Do you agree that you have to give milk to a toddler? Off course they will say yes. Now why is it wrong for me to give my child milk made for her instead of milk from a cow made for calves? If they get smart I just follow with or is your problem with the "cup" or "bottle" the child drinks from?
They seriously cant come back with a come back and wont bother even asking me again if I am still feeding her. I really am not phased if a mom breastfeed, formula feed ect. I really do feel moms (mostly anyway) do their best for their kids.
My MIL wanted me to start this one on solids at like a week to get her to sleep through. Grant apparantly was eating curry at a month. Poor poor hubby.
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Posted: 22 May 2008 at 8:05pm |
Oh my goodness, curry at one month. The things our generation lived through, lol.
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