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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 3:18pm |
Mine wasn't in my head ,it did hurt, still managed to get through it , twice, but I did not enjoy it at all .
Didn't help with Ty's birth that id been having contractions for the past 4 days and was exhausted .
So next time , drugs all the way (and the epi better blimming work  ) and i have no problem whatsoever with that decision , I hate giving birth .
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AandCsmum
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 4:21pm |
Noisybaby, you must be one of the blessed few with a high pain tolerance in birth.
This thread has reminded me of the ripping pain of my stomach, the birth itself wasn't bad, ie the pushing out bit but sh*t the lead up to that was excruciating & I was lucky that I only had about an hour of extreme pain with short hard contractions. I certainly screamed at times the rest of it I was trying to block it cause I didn't want to scare the full birthing suite.
I'm definitely scared of the possible next time. I didn't have time for drugs this time so next time would be worse.
Honestly a man talking about pain in childbirth is ridiculous, let alone being a midwife...how can he have the concept of it!
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 5:47pm |
hey i'm not saying it was all in your head but so people are influenced by what other people say. Have you ever noticed that there are hardly any people that actually talk about having an enjoyable child birth experience but they are nearly always about tearing, stitches, blood, drugs and things that went wrong. then people start to think that is the norm with childbirth. i knew it was gona hurt but i didn't let it scare me. your own mind is the most powerful drug available just most people don't know how to use it. I used breathing to help manage it. Most people use the drugs. I was actually put off epidurals by the idea of a needle being inserted into my spine. to me that sounded like it would hurt more.
i do still stand by the idea that everyone has the right to choose. its just a shame that drugs seem to be the main one offered
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 7:47pm |
omg what a load of bull what is that dr is on about!
I had pethadine, gas and an epidural in the last few hours of my horrendous labout and I had NO problems what so ever bonding with caden.
When they first handed him to me it was instant, everyone else faded out and it was just me and Caden
*shakes head* some of the crap they come out with these days! Makes me so mad, Nothing wrong with having pain relief during labour!
ETA-Oh and the pain definitely was not in my head! It HURT like a mother lol, I dont wanna do it again lol!!
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mummyofprinces
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 9:06pm |
The pain wasnt in my head either, one minute I was standing in the shower singing to myself and dancing a little jig through my hurty contractions the next minute it was like I was being ripped apart.
If the next labour is like the first I will be having another epi and I have no problems saying that.
I hope its not like that though, I want a labour like yours noisybaby.  Very jealous.
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 9:09pm |
Grrr that makes me sooo angry - I didn't see the programme but how dare a man (or a woman who hasn't given birth) say women shouldn't have pain relief.
Like someone else alluded to, I didn't have any pain relief (except for DH's acupressure) and rather than enhance bonding, it could have jeopardised bonding - as I came away from the birth experience (induction, ventouse) bordering on traumatised.
Noisybaby, I don't necessarily agree that drugs are the main option offered - during labour I felt that my MW was actually trying to prevent me from having an epidural (I think my DH would back me up on this one), and prelabour they encouraged TENS machines, waterbirth etc rather than drugs.
I think with the move away from GP care to MWs the 'birth is a natural experience' message is definitely out there. While I believe that, but I also believe that it is a very painful natural experience and, in this modern day and age, women shouldn't have to go all that pain when they don't need to.
I am only giving birth again if I am guaranteed an epidural!
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 9:28pm |
I'm of two minds about this one. Keep in mind that I'm coming from a position of having had an intervention filled birth experience so I'm by no means anti pain relief etc.
I just wanted to say I know what noisybaby is trying to say. It's not that the pain is all in your head, but the fact that women are scared of labour and expect it to hurt so much causes them to tense up and THAT is what causes the pain. Google "Fear Tension Pain Syndrome" if you want to know more about it. It's what hypnobirthing is all about trying to avoid. The theory is if you're able to relax and go with it it actually won't hurt so much. (I started hypnobirthing but then felt silly so didn't continue with it, read the book etc but didn't do the preparation I needed to, so when I got to the hospital I remember thinking "I'm not sure I thought through this", clammed up and it all turned to custard from there.)
I think the main point in this though is that every woman should have the right to choose what they want in childbirth, if that means drugs etc then that should be their prerogative, if that means an all natural home birth then ditto. Nobody should be able to say that they know best for anybody else - especially a man who is effectively saying "harden up"!
What I liked about seeing that on the news was when the story finished, the male newsreader opened his mouth to say something, obviously flummoxed, and the female newsreader said "I think it's probably best if we don't discuss that one"!!!
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caitlynsmygirl
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Posted: 15 July 2009 at 10:33pm |
I had no idea what labour was going to be like , so I didn't have a mindset that it would hurt, I didn't read anything about labour when I was pregnant with Caitlyn , so it wasn't a pain i was expecting , and therefore definetly not in my head .
Second labour for the majority I tried to use visualisation techniques , picturing him as a baby , not me being in labour , this worked for a while, then the pain in my body took over .
I know some people enjoy giving birth , thats great for them im not one of them
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Posted: 16 July 2009 at 12:03pm |
Aparantly there is a video on Youtube, where they used a machine to simulate labour on a guy. My friend was telling me about it last night. I think that horrid horrid man you is preaching about drug free birthing should be given a dose of that!!!! Then we can see how quickly he changes his tune
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Posted: 16 July 2009 at 12:30pm |
I know what you're trying to say noisybaby. I have a friend who, while pregnant, kept saying that she wanted an epi straight up. I just thought she should wait & see how her labour went before deciding (not that I told her so!). She ended up having a c/sect...  . Anyway, it was her choice of course.
Last pregnancy I did yoga where we focused a lot on breathing & relaxation techniques. I was able to use these techniques during the early stages of labour but when the going got tough, there was no way breathing was enough of a relief/distraction for me!! I remember the silly lady who took our AN classes saying that brushing your teeth or gripping onto a hair brush could be useful distraction techniques  Umm, I don't think so lady!!
I definitely agree that we women should have the choice to have pain relief or not. And a man adding in his 2cents doesn't really help as he will never experience giving birth & until you've done it you really don't know what it's like...
ETA: my MW has already told me that this time round I'll be given an epi reasonably early on in case a c/sect is needed in a hurry, in case of "stress" on my previous c/sect scar etc. Part of me was quite relieved to hear that...
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Posted: 16 July 2009 at 12:44pm |
I had an epidural with Janaya, barely felt a thing and was pretty much offered it as soon as I got into the hospital. I had no issues with bonding, I cried when she was born.
With Jackson i had gas (which didnt work) and I was rather traumatised when he came out. I didnt even cry or have the urge to hold him initially. I spent a lot of time just lying there thinking over and over about how blardy much it hurt!
Sounds like women have now got another reason to feel guilty about not doing things the natural way...
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Posted: 16 July 2009 at 1:43pm |
Thats a bit off. Do we want to be the home of the last hippies?! We all have the freedom of choice & shouldnt be made to feel bad if you didnt want to or couldnt choose/go the naturalway
Sometimes if there wasnt a choice, there wouldnt be any other way  Yes a natural birth would be the ideal & have seen how empowingly wonderful the experince is but it is not the be all & end all
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Posted: 16 July 2009 at 4:54pm |
i think its awful that this man is saying that drugs will affect bonding, as if us mums dont have enough to worry about.
i am sorry if my first post sounded that drug free was the only way to go - i do not think that at all. I just really feel that it should be each womans decision and that the medical professionals should respect that. I think that pain could be just as traumatising to bonding as drugs if you cant cope with the pain. A woman who is too exhausted to even hold her baby cant breastfeed or cope with all the changes happening. I dont think this MAN has any idea what he is talking about.
I must confess an epidural scared the crap out of me - so am actually in awe of anyone who can have it lol. A needle into my spine scared me a lot more than labour.
At one point during the birth i remember thinking that i might like to take something (gas was what i was thinking) but then i was too scared of vomiting lol and decided this pain of the contractions was at least familiar - weird logic i know.
I am one of those people that actually enjoyed labour and birth - but please dont think i have it all easy as my pregnancys arent a walk in the park - Maybe im some kinda weirdo that enjoys pain  dont know but for me it was a very real experience and i cant wait to give birth again.
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