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    Posted: 09 January 2007 at 11:27am
Yep you guessed it....RETURNING TO WORK

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JK and I are going to sit down and talk about this on the weekend and sort out what we are going to do but anyway...I am due to return to work "full time" in April after Easter, Lycan will be 10 months old and i thought that this would be a good time to return.....but as time gets closer i feel im not ready to leave him ...but that's not my biggest prolem....

I have had many discussions some heated with a family member about putting Lycan into day care all day from (7am - 5pm) her point is: Why would you return to work put your son in day care for someone else to raise. All you'll be doing is making money to pay for child care when you can stay home and raise him yourself. Why would you sacrifice beinging with your child for money...

This really upsets me (as it would alot of working mothers) because i would love to be able to stay home and be with him 24/7 but there are reasons for me returning to work and Yes money plays a big part in that. I would love to be able to give Lycan everything he needs and to do that we need money. But also i want to give him a brother or sister in he next year or two and currently we cannot afford to have another child unless our financial position improves.



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Hmm....I know exactly how you feel. I came back to work when Zaara was 4 months old and cried for two weeks prior to starting work. However I was happy that my Aunt was going to look after her in our house, where Zaara feel happy and safe. Come her 1st birthday, I had to enrol her in day care, I felt a bit bad...but thought NO its about time she got to socialize with other children, and learn other things. And tho she doesnt really like being dropped off in the morning, she loves it....you can see the changes in her (mostly good, some bad).

And yes for us it was also $$ issues. I earn more than hubby and we would have struggled to servive! And the comment that you would work to pay for day care is rubbish! Day care only will take out a small portion of your salary/wage!

My MIL always tries to make me feel guilty that I leave her at day care....but at the same time loves the fact that she is sooo much more interactive, and knows sooo many more things.....you cant have it both ways!!

You do what suits you, putting him in day care does not mean that you dont love Lycan...on the contrary it means that you are commited enough to give him a better future. And you will see that you will cherish every second of him after you pick him up!!

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I had Andrew in Daycare at 5 months. He wasn't in fulltime but he was built up to fulltime care by the time he was 18 months old.

Your family member is nuts (sorry) its yours and your DH's decsion to sent your child to daycare. Its not like it is going to cost your your whole weeks wages to put him in care. I do know one daycare in Auckland that is a bit pricey (my friend is a head teacher there), but so long as the quality of care is good you should have anything to worry about. I gave Jess a website www.ero.govt.nz have a look at that to see the daycares in your area and what reviews they have.

I'm sure like many people it is a money issue that you have to return to work. I know I have to this year in about September and we will cross that road when we get to it.

I love Andrew's daycare (we went round most in Palmy before we settled on this one) and the have taught him so much. Much more than I think we would have taught him at home. Andrew is 2 and 8 months and for about 5 or so months he has been counting up to 10 by himself - something I don't think would of happened if he was at home with me everyday until he was closer to 4. He can sing the alphabet and heaps of other songs - some of which we know and sing with him but there are some that have come from daycare alone. Messy Play - kids need it, Lycan get to do this and you don't have to worry about the mess.

Andrew's social skills are very well developed as he has been around children his own age. There is a group of 4 boys all born within 6 days of each other that are at his daycare and they are the best of mates. The only other child Andrew knows out of daycare is his friend Holly and she is a dainty girl so his rough and tumble play isn't always good for her. So he has that with the boys at daycare.

Sorry long post, but I am a believer that daycare does not harm children it helps them.

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I am going to be in your same position...we have a nice lifestyle and to be honest i would only have to work three days to pay all mortgages, bills etc and the rest is "play money"....but we are able to live a nice lifestyle as a result and will also be able to save for a "gulp" second baby...another $4000 for a specialist - yep we will be saving...
In mums day she was lucky that she had family step up to look after us etc...she was on her own...but now all of our rellies work fulltime so anything they can offer is unsecure....does this person who you have been arguing with have her hand up to babysit anytime at all???
Im not anti daycare...I know it will be ok..and by daycare i mean a centre, a nanny, a babysitter whatever...bubs will be well cared for, interacting with others and therefore being socilaised, and you will still have quality time before, after and on weekends etc...and if you dont have to work 5 days or full days then there is extra tiem to squeeze in there too...
ignore that ignorant person....do what is best for you and the family....I am totally with you as we also thought long and hard about our decision...whcih will benefit our family long term....
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I found that having a break from the boys made me a better mum and although I'm not working at present, plan to put both boys in daycare once a week as a break (and a chance to get everything done_)

Funnily enough, my SIL thinks I should put both boys in full-time daycare and get a job. Personal decision I say!

Also, I LOVED our daycare. they were fabulous and showed me some discipline techniques that we use on Jake AND stopped his biting phase.
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Well I haven't read everyone else's replies but I decided to be SAHM because of the reason your family member has given you. It meant we needed to look at our budget and decide to live within DH's earnings, and stick with it. Sometimes I wish I had more spending money but it has otherwise worked really well for us, especially with having children so close together (so I'm pg half the time lol).

In saying that though, I don't think it's anyone's job to put that kind of decision on you (or anyone else). There are a lot of pros and cons to weigh up. I worked part-time for a little while so I definitely hear you on the separation thing!

It's a good thing that you and JK are discussing it together because then you can stand up against the critical comments (which you'll get either way)... and you could look at part-time initially to help you adjust (10mos is a long time!).
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I always thought i would be a SAHM, but with suprises things don't always work that way!, (nice surprises they are.. mostly!) Mum looked after PAris for 4 hours a week from when she was 3 weeks old for the first 5 months, and she went to daycare at 11 months old. by that time she was so shy because i didn't get out much, she would scream if anyone unfamiliar came into the room alot of the time and didn't warm to anyone. Through daycare she is now a happy sociable outgoing girl and it's so nice to see.
Ayja was in daycare at 11 weeks (again due to my study commitments) and whilei did have a few probs with sleeping times etc she is another outgoing happy wee girl.

You are not giving your child to someone else ot raise, you can still instill your morals etc and teach them about your family and all that when you are with him, It is nice for them to have someone they are close to and nothing will change that.. if anything , it might meant hat now they have another 1 or 2 or more adults that they have a secure bond with which is what helps them learn trust. I love that my 2 girls have a very close bond with their care-teacher, she looked after paris when she was a baby, and now looks after Ayja.. and we have known one another since we were 2.

It is hard to leave them, and yeah you miss them, but like Liz said, it is nice to have time away, and nice for them too, my girls go a little stir crazy if they are too long wihtout daycare.. ours does not open again till this thursday and Paris can't wait to get back to see her little friends.

If family cannot support you or offer help in the childcare department then they should shush their opinions.
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yeah i hear you, she is a SAHM as well but our situations are completly different in so many ways...but in saying that she makes a good argument. JK & I will decide if i stay home, return to work or as you say look for a part time job or reduce my hours at my current job if possible...what ever we decide we will have to act soon....

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james is in day care for two morings and one hole day and he loves it i puthim in for much the same reasons as lizzle and jannie and i have no regerts tell this person to mind her own and not worry about your son as he is well loved and cared for and thats all that matters
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After I completed my psych degree I did a research paper where I looked in to the plusses and minuses of daycare. O verwhelmingly the findings were that the breaks the primary caregiver had when the child was in daycare was valuable, as long as the parent wasn't feeling very guilty. Some of the least satisfied with the breaks were people who really wanted to be SAHM, but had no choice (even sticking to a budget) but to work. Where there was choice and acceptance, plus understanding that there was value for both (for those that want the adult contact, children having social contact etc) the length of time didn't matter.

In the end you have to do what is right for you and your family. Good luck!
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Harry was in creche from 3 months and Alex from 5 months. It is a lot easier to put one child in daycare especially financially as it makes it all worthwhile. With two, it is twice the cost plus a bit more full on getting everyone ready etc but being very organised helps that and I guess with the 3 and 4 years getting 20 hours child care that will help when you have two kids in creche.

My delimma at the moment is Harry who is now three talks to me about not wanting to go to creche anymore because no one will play with him or be nice to him. This really got me down but I spoke to the teachers today and they assured me that he was fine during the day but as it was holidays there weren't many kids there. That sort of made me better but it can be so hard. In fact (sorry, on a roll), drop off etc is a lot easier when they are younger
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To be blunt, I think I am a better parent because I work. It dosen't work for everyone, but it sure as hell does for me. It is really important for me to have some "me" time, 4 and a half hours a day when I am Annie, not Muma. I think it means I am refreshed for Jake, and he really thrives in care. We use home care, where he is one of 4 children, and he absolutely loves it. At times it is really hard to leave him, but I feel good knowing that he has a "curriculum" that they have to follow, and she takes himt o the music and playgroups that I was taking him to, plus he is a really social little boy. I don't work just for the "break", as any one who is a working mum will tell you, you have to have super juggling and organisiational skills, so it's not a break, but my extra money really does help out. For my $15 an hour, we pay $4.50 an hour childcare, BUT as we have a buisness, my husband pays for the care, and we can claim for it.
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That looked like a RANT, and it kinda sorta was, I feel so stongly that it is NO ONE elses right to inflict their negative "opinions" about it when you are obviously struggling with a difficult decision. My brother is a hard line "womans place is in the home" type, and gave me the "benefit" of his wisdom while I was trapped in a vehicle with him for half an hour last week. When we got out, I was sooooo angry, I actually slapped his face. This is the same brother who is always broke with 2 kids to support.
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I'm a SAHM because any job I got would probably only just cover day care lol. But every sat my parents look after Jack to give me a break I'm there but they take care of him.
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I went back to work (not by choice) 3 days a week in my old job when Caitlin was 4 months old and am now working 4 days a week due to someone called "home loan" pinching all our cash

Deez, You know what a mess I was for ages after going back until I realised something very important...

It's not how much time you spend with your child but how you choose to spend the time you have with them.

Caitlin and I have all day Friday together, just the two of us. I don't do anything else except spend time with her, unless she's asleep, then I try to catch up with my mates on MSN (no housework, no chores nothing!)
I really appreciate the time we have together and know that I am working so that like you I can give her everything she needs including a stress-free happy family. I know if I didn't go back to work we would be really stressing over money and that's not the sort of environment I want to bring my daughter up in.

At the end of the day hun - the choice is totally yours. Only you know what is best for your family and your circumstances.
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