Woman’s Choice

I haven't read the links NIkki posted, no sense upsetting myself coz i have a reasonable idea what the procedure involves and I am just a *wee* but hormonal atm...

It was my understanding that usual practise in NZ if a baby has no chance of survival outside the womb post -about 18 or so weeks is to induce the baby so that it is born alive and then passes away shortly after birth. I could be wrong, but that's what has happened in cases I have read about.

That sounds a billions times better than the procedures described in those articles.

KiwiMummy wrote: almostthere wrote: Also, abortions up to 22 weeks in america were, im not sure if they still are, performed but the mother has to go through a partial birth. It looks and sounds horrible for child and mother There is no reason besides the health of mother and child to have to go through this! I think that if you get to that stage what would be so wrong with keeping on going and delivering the baby and adopting it out? She'd be over half way at that point and the smallest prem baby was on 22 weeks wasnt he? OK so here i am showing some of my prolife tendencies, but i am still very much prochoice. I just think that the doctors that choose to perform them at that stage, well, hmm.. Just a comment on this, a dear friend of mine found out at her 20 week scan that her wee boy had severe brain damage If I remember rightly she was told over 20 weeks is classed as stillborn. After they made the agonising decision not to continue with the pregnancy her wee boy was born at 22 weeks. Basically she was induced and yes, had to go through labour and birth. I am pro choice

Thats so sad
A lady in my AN class had to go through the same thing, she and her husband told us during a class discussion about birth, and she broke down in tears and couldnt talk, her husband explained what happened, the baby was missing some of its brain their baby would have been born severly brain damaged or stillborn.
So she was induced and had to go through labour and birth aswell.

Well I'm not prolife at all, and I don't think life starts until you are actually born.
Abortion is not freely available, its is a very long and involved process to terminate a pregnancy, if your lucky the dad might be involved, if he's even around.

I mean what's worse to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, or have the child only to be bashed to death 12 weeks later. (ie Kahui twins)
Sometimes choosing to terminate is a far more responsible choice than continuing with the pregnancy.

I've had a termination at 10 weeks when I was 25, I've never regretted it, and certainly wouldn't have the life I do know if I hadn't. I wish prolifers would get over themselves and realise as long as people are having sex there is going to be unwanted babies, and its far better to offer a safe and hygienic way to terminate than forcing woman into unsafe medical practices.

The life of the living should always come first. Not the life that hasn't even begun.

Sorry Rant over!

Edited by fleury

I remember an episode of Grey's Anatomy where a full term woman fell over and had to birth her baby (which died).

I wouldnt be able to do it, I would be crying and a reck, I think its horrible to have to do that.

Re abortion, people should be more carefull when it comes to having safe sex, but if you have an unplanned pregnancy where ie condom broke (me) and you really couldnt do it, well its the mothers choice. And of course if raped etc I would have an abortion, but under normal circimstances I wouldnt have one.

I dont feel that other people should tell you what to do with your body.

sorry ,that wasn't directed at anyone on here., was merely my own musings