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  | ShellandBella   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Help! Is it just hunger...? Posted: 27 August 2007 at 3:22pm
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   OK, I'm really started to get frustrated that Bella isn't being satisfied by breastfeeding alone...With her last feed, she fed 20 mins on my left breast, was still crying, so gave her the right breast (she stayed on for 10 mins), was still crying, gave her 50mls of formula, was STILL crying, and finally gave her another 50mls of formula which finally satisfied her. Now, I'm pretty sure its hunger, because I have her in a fairly predictable feed, play, sleep routine, but could it be anything else?
 The other thing I have noticed is that my left breast doesn't seem to yield as much milk as my right. If I pump both of them for 10 mins, I will get about 75mls off the right breast, but only about 25mls off the left...and my let down is WAY slower on the left than the right? Are there any solutions to this?
 I'm also sure its NOT a growth spurt, because this has been going on for about a week now    Any help/info would be MUCH appreciated, because at this stage, I am really considering just putting her on formula alone...
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  | AnnC   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 3:32pm | 
 
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   Sorry to say but growth spurts can go on for longer than a week so could  well and truely be one. She is probably feeding more to get your milk flow up (making sure your body produces more to accomodate her growing and needing more)
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 3:43pm | 
 
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 Sorry to say but growth spurts can go on for longer than a week so could  well and truely be one. She is probably feeding more to get your milk flow up (making sure your body produces more to accomodate her growing and needing more)
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 yep - i agree that could be it and by giving her formula you are hindering that.  If she is crying are you sure its not wind...as someone pointed out another thread wind often presents the same as hunger.
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  | kebakat   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 3:49pm | 
 
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   I agree too. Could well be wind, Daniel presents me with hunger signs when it's actually wind and sometimes his growth spurts last a week - 10 days when he becomes an absolute guts. 
 If you are worried about one breast not having much milk there are things you can do to increase your supply.
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  | ShellandBella   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 4:02pm | 
 
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   Like what, Stacey?? I agree, formula probably isn't helping, but when she's been crying for 2 hours I get desperate   . I was pretty sure it WASN'T wind because she's always pretty good at bringing up burps (or doing huge poo explosions) but how do you really know? What good tips are there for winding/burping? 
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 4:11pm | 
 
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   sometimes it can just be a little bit of wind that irritates them.  I found - other than the normal back rubbing - that sometimes changing their position helps, ie from lying to sitting or a gentle little squeeze in their mid section.
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  | Nic01   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 4:20pm | 
 
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   I think you can get a tea to help with milk production. I haven't tried it so don't know whether it works or not, but I think it's called breastfeeding tea & is made by Weleda so maybe ask at a health shop. Also make sure you're drinking plenty of water & maybe try feeding her a bit more frequently for a bit just to help boost your supply.
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  | kebakat   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 4:33pm | 
 
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   Naturopharm make a spray which is meant to be good for milk production. Ummmm blessed thistle is meant to be good as well.. if I can remember the others I'll put them up (brain is a lil slow - nappy brain hehe)
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  | sparkle   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 5:32pm | 
 
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   I've got both the spray and the nursing tea (which by the way looks and tastes like pee!!!)
 I don't think I've been taking them long enough to say if they are actually helping. But in saying that you know that I did have milk issues that have come right lately.
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  | Rachael21   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 August 2007 at 8:49pm | 
 
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   You could try just letting her suck suck suck on your boob. A baby is way better at getting milk out than a breast pump. Like others have said you giving her formula is actually making your boobs produce less milk. 
 Its quite common for one boob not to make as much and its usually because they prefer the opposite one. I have it with mine too and it shouldn't cause a problem. You could keep her on the one that makes less for longer to try and get it to make more.
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  | ShellandBella   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 28 August 2007 at 12:18pm | 
 
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   Just saw the plunket nurse, and she has given me a few suggestions i.e trying a different position for the left side, as she obviously favours the right for some reason. She also said its completely normal for one boob to yield more milk than the other and some babies just favour one side...So hopefully, slowly but surely, things might come right. Thanks for all your suggestions    | 
 
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  | AN E   Senior Member
 
   
   
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   Good luck      When I pump - it takes twice as long to express off my right than my left to empty them. Others in my coffee group have agreed this is the case with them as well. So no... definitely not abnormal    | 
 
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  | caitlynsmygirl   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 . I was pretty sure it WASN'T wind because she's always pretty good at bringing up burps (or doing huge poo explosions) but how do you really know? What good tips are there for winding/burping?
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 best way i found of telling if caitlyn had wind was checking how hard her tummy was .
 There are heaps of ways to bring up wind,its just about finding the best one for your baby, with caitlyn i used to jiggle her lightly on my knee (well supported of course) my friend used to lay her baby on her knee and rub her back, some prefer being held over your shoulder, or on your lap etc etc....it gets so much easier when they are able to bring it up themselves hehe 
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  | ShellandBella   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 30 August 2007 at 10:17am | 
 
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   Well, I'm pleased to say my milk supply has increased, and Bella is being satisfied off one breast again. I have been letting her suckle whenever she wants for however long to try and increase my milk, and giving her my left breast more often to increase it. So, hopefully I can now keep going with the breastfeeding!    | 
 
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  | peanut butter   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 30 August 2007 at 10:46am | 
 
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   YAY!!!!!
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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   thats awesome!
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  | AN E   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 30 August 2007 at 3:48pm | 
 
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   Fantastic news!    | 
 
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