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  | catisla   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Scratching at night - worms? Posted: 27 September 2009 at 6:44pm
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   Hey all
 The past two nights, I have noticed that DD has been scratching herself on the back (just above the nappy) to the extent that there are nasty looking red marks. She has a skin condition that means she reacts badly to skin trauma, but it still looks like she has been having a very intensive scratch.
 I thought it may be worms so (as recommended by the nurse i spoke to when getting her jabs) i went in with a torch last night and had a look around her anus for any signs of wormy life but couldn't see anything.
 Just wondering if anyone else's DD or DS has done mysterious scratching at night and what it may be. I haven't ruled out worms entirely yet, but the nurse seemed to think if it was i would definitely see them (and the pharmacy medication says it is very rare in under 2s)
 She does go to daycare so i am guessing she could have easily picked it up.
 any ideas???
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  | Bizzy   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 6:54pm | 
 
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   if it was worms you would see them, irritability is also a symptom.
could be bites?
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  | Freesia   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 7:03pm | 
 
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   Could it be the nappy or clothing irritating her? Maybe the label on her pants or something?
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  | pepsi   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 7:34pm | 
 
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   De-worming treatment for kids is pretty easy in the form of those little chocolate squares from the chemist. Better to treat it anyway, even without visual confirmation because it won't hurt to do it really..
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  | catisla   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 7:59pm | 
 
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   thanks everyone
 don't think it is a label or nappy as she hasn't been in anything different at night . . . and cant see any evidence of insect bites.
 
 If she scratches again i will probably go to the doc - Can't give under 2s the over-the counter medication unfortunately . . .
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  | Peanut   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 8:33pm | 
 
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   DS is in fulltime DC and it was recommended to us by our GP to worm him once a year (yip, it sounds like puppy treatment!) just incase. You can use the choc square ones like pepsi said. They are safe for that age group (at least that is what the 2 pharmaists said as checked 2 different chemists) and relatively cheap so I would probably just do it and rule that out before heading to the Dr's.
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  | catisla   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 27 September 2009 at 8:43pm | 
 
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   thanks Peanut - i will go to a different pharmacy tomorrow and source some chocolate squares!
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  | Freesia   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 28 September 2009 at 7:50am | 
 
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   Plunket told us that it doesn't hurt to worm your child as a precaution because they can get worms from playgrounds as well but when I went to our pharmacy, the pharmacist wouldn't sell me any of the chocolate worming squares because Livvy was under 2 and said it shouldn't be done unless they are showing symptoms. So they all seem to have different opinions on it. 
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  | Jacobsmumma   Senior Member
 
   
 
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:10pm | 
 
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   I watched a programme on TV last week about worming kids and one suggestion was to put sticky tape on the bottom and if there are worms some would be stuck to the tape.... gross but it could be worth a try... I would imagine its not very comfy for bubby to have some tape stuck to their bum tho.  They also suggested taking a torch in and having a look.
 Goodluck, hope you get it sorted soon.
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  | Bobbie   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:20pm | 
 
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   You probably know this already but if you're dosing her then better dose the rest of the family too plus do a hot wash of sheets/towels etc.
 Any chance it could be some skin thing like scabies?
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  | catisla   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 29 September 2009 at 11:03pm | 
 
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   Hey all
 Still not seen any worms by torchlight and I have been putting her to sleep in her AIOs so she cant scratch.
 
 I think it may have been an insect bite but i am going to keep an eye on this, and dress her in normal pajamas again tomorrow night to see if she does it again. (the previous scratches have just about healed now so will be easy to tell) I don't think it was scabies as cant see any evidence of this.
 
 I may try the sticky tape idea if it carries on . . .
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  | monikah   Senior Member
 
   
   
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 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 29 September 2009 at 11:09pm | 
 
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   i second the tape idea. we have just finished studying parasites and the tape can often pick up the eggs which are really hard to see. also make sure you check in the morning and not before bed as the worm lays eggs at the anus overnight so first thing is the best time for spotting them. other than that i dont know, hives maybe, flea bite?
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