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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Babe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2009 at 8:48am
I'm sorry to all who were affected by my comments.

To clarify the 'simple life' part - The advances of technology in the form of cellphones, laptops and other such devices have been suspected for many years of lowering the sperm count in men. The forms of contraception available have, through the developmental process and even now, caused fertility problems (I know this because its personally happened to me) and I guess this is more society related than scientific but the rates of obesity have shot through the roof which in turn affects fertility. There are issues that have absolutely nothing to do with klifestyle such as endo, pcos and the like. I have family members who have suffered the heartache of those conditions and I hurt for them and all you who are wanting to conceive and having problems.

I think legalising abortiona and even just having them become so much more socially acceptable is really sad! There are so many people who would love to adopt a child and would make awesome parents but there are less and less babies out there because of the abortion rate. This would defin itely lower the 'pain, stress and finance' involved in adopting as many other epople have also said it was alot easier a few decades ago.

Now finally to clear up the IVF issue!! I was told at 22 that my reaction to the pill had sterilised me. Devastating yes, life-changing yes, unbelievable yes. It was terrible for me I love children and desperately wanted a family of my own, always have since I was 6. Amazingly enough I was 3 weeks pregnant when they told me this and I managed to carry my son to fullterm. There were tons of complications, medical and personal and I almost lost my baby a few times (inc when my body started having a reaction to the pregnancy and I started fitting and my body was closing down and trying to stop supporting my babies life). I have since been told that I should be able to conceive but the chances of me carrying another baby naturally conceived to full-term are slim to none and after 3-4 mcs its hard not to believe that. That being said I am still going to TTC and have faith that my God has His hand on things. I know that I'm truly blessed to have my beautiful, miracle child and anything else is icing on the cake. I have been told that IVF and uhm artificial implantation? may help the cause but thats not a road I'm going to take so yes I do have that option and I have made that decision.

Lastly - everybody is entitled to their opinion and next time you read 'nobody get offended please ' take note! Remember that this is a web forum and you actually don't know what another person is going or has gone through to get where they are. I certainly haven't shared everything I've gone through on this forum (hell I barely talk about it in RL) and I respect the fact that you all have experiences that have shaped your opinions. Background for opinions isn't always put down in a post so maybe ASK why someone has written what they have instead of REACTING.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kicker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2009 at 10:10am
Babe - no offense was taken, but if you are going to throw general statements out - such as the simple life one - and you don't want a personal reaction... maybe you should try to clarify what you meant. You don't need to put personal details into it, but explain as you did above about the use of cellphones etc.

Infertility and TTC are very emotive topics and will elicit a repsonse, sensitivity and tact go a long way.

Enough said from me. 'No offense intended'

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GuestGuest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2009 at 12:46pm
Kicker, I agree.

Babe, what you are saying is very provocative, the areas of IVF, infertlity, abortion and adoption are all very sensitive areas - and you can times the sensitivity by one hundred on a TTC forum so you can't expect people not to take offence just because you say "no offence intended".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hopes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 April 2009 at 1:05pm
Thanks Babe - I appreciate your openness and your comments.

TTC does make us so ridiculously sensitive. The amount of times I've wanted to scone someone IRL for something simple that they didn't even mean in an offensive way (or probably even think about!) is silly. To be honest, I need to toughen up a little - but that can be hard to do!!!!

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Babe, I wasnt having a "go" and I value your opinions the same as I do with other peoples opinions- one of the reasons actually why I feel I get so much out of this forum.
It is important to highlight that they are just that..opinions and everyone has I right to have their own and I'm sure, no i'm positive, that nobody wants to take that away from anyone else here.

However, it is important to know that topics like abortion, IVF, "Artifical" (as you said..I think it was artificial insemination) pregnancies are very emotive and stemming from those issues is usually a lot of pain and hurt and feelings of loss and grief. I understand that you have had a rough time of things too, as have many of us on here. I'm personally currently working through a lot of issues of feeling completely incompetant for not being able to do what my body should be able to do naturally... it is very hard. I just think that it was natural that people would be hurt over some statements that were made, and giving you the benefit of doubt I'm sure they werent intentionally hurtful. Just know that its a very sensitive topic as others have expressed.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Babe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2009 at 9:18am
All good then glad that was cleared up!

**I've edited this as I've run my posts past a few different people and while I'm sorry that people got upset I don't believe that I said anything insensitive, tactless or hurtful. I stated an opinion to a question that was asked and my reasoning was completely valid and scientifically backed up. I wish everybody luck on their TTCing journey**

I'm sending baby dust to you all *sprinkle sprinkle*

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Babe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2009 at 9:21am
It was artificial implantation Mindy where they implant the egg INTO the wall or something. Can't remember the exact details and I think it had a trickier name
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Hi Babe,

Its All Good Now    I have learned along the way that I am entitled to my opinion but it doesnt give me permission to be insensitive or tactless.

I thought is was cute when you said : I'm sending baby dust to you all *sprinkle sprinkle*  



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MindyW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2009 at 5:33pm
lol I think the "sprinkle, sprinkle" was a nice touch

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