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    Posted: 11 December 2008 at 11:15am
How do you guys feel about police offers being raked across the coals for chasing someone in a car that has refused to stop and they end up in a crash hurting themselves or someone else.

In my opinion people who refuse to stop are in the wrong. They knowingly put themselves and others in danger by using exessive speed to get away from the police who are trying to keep us safe.

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Originally posted by McPloppy McPloppy wrote:


In my opinion people who refuse to stop are in the wrong. They knowingly put themselves and others in danger by using exessive speed to get away from the police who are trying to keep us safe.

 

Yes, I agree with this.

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Yeah I agree with you too. I hate how innocent people are put at risk, but I believe we will still be at risk if the police do nothing.
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A tough one when innocent people are involved, but I do agree with your statement. I think there has to be a point where the chase would be called off, for example if the speed went over a certain limit or the chase entered a densly populated area but at the end of the day they're in the wrong and the police are there to enforce the laws of the land.
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People say that if the police wern't chasing them then they would not have been speeding but then i say that if they had not done something wrong in the first place the police would not have been chasing them. Make sense?
They should be prosecuted for any death caused by their actions.

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I agree totally.

Police need more support/legal protection. It sux that if a policeman (or woman ) shoot, or car hits someone as above, whilst they are in their line of duty, their name usually gets splattered across the media.

I also hate people who think police are revenue gatherers. Don't break the law then! Simple as that! They don't make the laws, they enforce them.


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LOL
Dh tells people who say he is only trying to fill his quota that he does not have a quota but that he can write as many tickets as is needed


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Originally posted by Star Star wrote:



Police need more support/legal protection. It sux that if a policeman (or woman ) shoot, or car hits someone as above, whilst they are in their line of duty, their name usually gets splattered across the media.


Don't even get me started on that. The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

And I agree...the police need a hell of a lot of more support in my opinion instead of having to wade through red tape PC bollocks!

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I think the media has alot to answer to in regards to how the police are portrayed to the public...i know that saying that the police got it right and did a good job does not make for a dramatic news read.
Also pleased to see that uncle John is wanting to have all police equiped with tasars.

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In my first hand experience, police don't chase someone for the hell of it, the vehicle has done something to break the law to come to attention anyway. If they hadn't done whatever it was in the first place then they wouldn't be in the situation where the police wanted to stop them. The drivers know exactly what they are doing when they don't stop and if you haven't done any thing wrong why run??

Summerlamb, there is a point where pursuits get called off and a lot of the time it is the pursing officer that will call it off, rather than the Police Comms operator.

I totally agree with what Star & Paws said about support. I think that the group who needs to give the most support and doesn't is the bosses. In regrds to what McPloppy said about the media, if the bosses stood up to them and answered to all the bulls**t stories the media wouldn't have such a field day.
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I agree with all the comments
I especially agree with " if they werent doing something wrong in the first place , they wouldnt be chased "
and that police need more protection and support.

I hate how people bag the police all the time, insult them ,call them Pigs etc, yet of course who will they call when they need help ? imo police need not only more protection and support , but more RESPECT, they are doing a job that few of us would have the guts to do


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Caitynsgirl - you are so right. Respect seems to have gone out the window these days, not only for the police but for elders, teachers etc etc.   It annoys me how police can be bagged but yes, who do they call when they need help?? Funny isn't it?

Mcploppy -I agree, the media has a huge huge part on how police are portrayed. Some of the stories on there are just so one-sided or edited its not funny.

I just don't know how police do it. They are amazing. I reckon alot of people don't actually realise how varied the role is.

(Sorry, I know this has gone off the pursuit topic.)


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Originally posted by Star Star wrote:

Caitynsgirl - you are so right. Respect seems to have gone out the window these days, not only for the police but for elders, teachers etc etc.



It so has, its disgusting, when I was young, teachers, police officers etc were to be looked up to , now ...its totally different , i find it sad


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It is sad isn't it.   I really hope I can teach my kids to respect them.

(I'm being very naughty being on here as I have sooo much work to do around the house).


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...so am I , the housework police would fine me if they knew ....


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i am pleased to hear that i am not the only one who thinks this way...thanks.
I don't mind if the topics goes off in another direction.
The thing is that the police cannot correct the media due to privacy issues so again...damned if the do and damned if they don't.

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LOL...dh comes home with his ticket book and I have to put my pocket money in a jar for the fines he gives me...washing not folded, dinner not on the table...lol
Ha ha as if!!! He knows he checks his balls at the door when he comes home and picks them up on the way to work.

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Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl caitlynsmygirl wrote:

...so am I , the housework police would fine me if they knew ....


ROFL!

One of my biggest fears of being a policemans wife (apart form DH getting hurt or killed) is that DH will get dragged through the media for doing his job. And I mean doing his job as he should do.   That would suck.



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Originally posted by McPloppy McPloppy wrote:

LOL...dh comes home with his ticket book and I have to put my pocket money in a jar for the fines he gives me...washing not folded, dinner not on the table...lol
Ha ha as if!!! He knows he checks his balls at the door when he comes home and picks them up on the way to work.


At least you know, McPloppy, that he will stop at his quota lol!

Now if they did have a quota, then they can only fill it by people breaking the law so don't break the law, and there is no "quota".

Have you ever had a discussion with someone about this who is anti-police, OMG it is like going round in circles.





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Originally posted by Star Star wrote:


Have you ever had a discussion with someone about this who is anti-police, OMG it is like going round in circles.

 

I must lead a very sheltered life.  It seems so odd to me that people could be anti-police.  It's like people being anti-medics or anti-firefighters

Having said that my dad was a medic and he was attacked a few times by the mate/family of his patient as he tried to treat them.

Some people are just nutters! Those people should be evicted from NZ (you are the weakest link.... goodbye!) 



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