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Emmecat
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Topic: Vegetarian sushi & bean curd rolls Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:10pm |
DF has just been so sweet and brought me home some vegetarian sushi and bean curd rolls...yum. But he was gutted (as was I) when I said I thought I couldn't eat them, even though they're both vegetarian. I have a feeling its something to do with the rice? Anyone know?
Also, if it IS the rice then I'm a bit worried now cos one of the few things I can stomach well is that packet rice you cook in a microwave...Uncle Bens etc. Is THAT ok?
Internet opinion seems very divided, half of it says avoid sushi altogethr, the rst say vegetarian sushi fine. MOH says to avoid it but then they also say don't eat home made or store bought hummus....which I do eat anyway cos its part of my protein intake!
Aarrrgh 
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mummyofprinces
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:19pm |
Its the rice hun, listeria can breed like mad in cooked rice if its not stored properly.....
So if it was cooked fresh when DH got it and it hasnt been sitting out all day then I would say its probably ok but if it was already packed sitting on the shelf then nope!
With hummus, there is debate around this one. Apparently (and I will be corrected I am sure LOL) the reason it is on the no go list is due to the tahini in it, there were some listeria cases a few years back. I personally eat hummus, but only when opened or home made... you can make it with pretty much just chick peas, garlic and lemon juice I am told.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:22pm |
You can cook and eat your own rice no problem. I think the uncle bens ones are good too cuz you heat them beyond recognition anyway.
I eat hummus - but i'll eat the whole thing at once and not store it in the fridge.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:23pm |
lol I knew you at least would reply to this thread Mel hmmm I have a feeling the sushi was already prepared adn was an end of day sale IYKWIM so bah I will avoid it. Bugger. Poor DF. He was just being sweet .
The hummus thing....i used to make my own but I simply can't be bothered anymore so just buy it. What's wrong with tahini though? I also eat that in decent quantities as it's high in calcium and protein. I do wonder sometimes if some of these 'rules' are uber-safe and if one is already used to eating these types of foods then one can continue to do so??
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:24pm |
MissAngel- you eat your entire tub of hummus at once?  lol it takes our family of 3 days to eat it...I just make sure the lid is on tight and its kept in the fridge. AND I reheated half of my Uncle Bens rice today....wow I am a bad pregnant food safety person
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:33pm |
Emmecat I have the latest food safety brochure from ministry of health and it does say not to eat hummus but it doesn't say why.
I think if you made your own, or if you ate it just when you opened the packet then it would be ok.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:37pm |
Yeah the uncle bens stuff is fine I reckon, even reheated!.
Something about the way tahini is prepared means its a higher listeria risk... I am not sure.
They are guides/recommendations after all. I think it comes down to what risk you are prepared to take, not every piece of sushi is going to have listeria in it but it might so do you take the gamble...
I eat things I am not "supposed" too but thats my risk to take iykwim...
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:38pm |
We eat a whole pot of hummus in one go too- but I get help!
I had no idea not to eat it while preg- I did all the time. And I ate all sorts of sushi too but only from one shop where I know the turn over is high, and I had no problems!
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:47pm |
Ok taken from a newletter on the health website....
The New Zealand Food Safety Authority has introduced an
Emergency Food Standard aimed at protecting consumers from
imported tahini products that could be contaminated with
Salmonella bacteria.
The move follows concern at the number of products
containing tahini or crushed sesame seeds imported into New
Zealand that have been found to be contaminated with
Salmonella. The Emergency Food Standard means that all
imported tahini, crushed sesame seeds or foods containing
these products will be monitored and tested prior to being
released when they arrive in the country.
In July hummus made with tahini was recalled by
manufacturers because it was contaminated with Salmonella. In
September the New Zealand Food Safety Authority issued three
warnings to the public not to eat specific brands of tahini paste
and halva, a Lebanese dried confectionery, because they
contained Salmonella. These products have been linked to four
cases of Salmonella in Auckland. Tahini has also been
implicated in outbreaks of Salmonella in Australia and Sweden
over the last two years.
“We need to be able to protect at the border from this sort of
food contamination instead of waiting for people to get sick
before we can deal with the problem. This new Emergency
Food Standard will allow us to do that,” Jim Wilson,
Programme Manager, Imported Foods says.
Tahini is a sesame seed paste used in many Middle Eastern
spreads and dips. It can be used by itself or as a flavour
enhancer. It is also referred to as sesame paste, hamas tahini,
tahina, tahine, halva dessert mix, sesame seed paste and sesame
seed butter. Tahini is used in the manufacture of hummus
(halawa), halva, and babaganoush.
“As a general food safety precaution, tahini should be kept in
the fridge and consumed by its use-by date. Once the use-by
date has expired it should be thrown out,” Mr Wilson says.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:47pm |
That is what sparked hummus being a bad food
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:57pm |
I eat some things that are meant to be on the no go list.
I have mcd's thick shakes. I didn't know those were a no no until yesterday.
I eat runny egg yolks. I need egg for protein (vego like you are). I make sure the white is cooked but completely cooked egg yolk is just
I've eaten some hummus too. I only eat it within a day or two of opening.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 7:21pm |
I ate hummus. At one stage all I could eat in the mornings was hummus and tomato on vogels, Yummy, now I want some of that  .
As the others said rice is fine when freshly cooked but not if it has been sitting around for a while.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 7:58pm |
lol, once I get going on hummus and crackers man, thats me! I dont buy massive pots tho, only the smallish ones.
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 8:39pm |
I have homemade hummus (not that I can be arsed to make it) or any other dips that I can find, and homemae sushi (when DH CBA to make it!). I was at a conference this week and ended up eating vege sushi rolls out of desperation as there was very little else (other than curry that makes me  ) to eat.
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 8:40am |
lol I guess it's all a bit of a gamble then isn't it? 
I have never kept my tahini in a fridge, pregnant or not. I guess I'll keep eating it as is then and the hummus...but maybe watch out for the sushi. It's still in the fridge and the bean curd rolls are calling me..... sigh I best not cave.
Wow and I didn't know that about McD's thickshakes either...I HATE McD's with a passion for all sorts of reasons but I've been a total hypocrit the last week and had about 3 thickshakes from there as thats what my poor old tummy oculd stomach. Jeez we could go through our pregnancies eating nothing but freshly grown and washed organic veges and well cooked proteins lol (I guess thats the ideal anyway!) 
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 10:10am |
I'm the same with the thickshakes. I haven't been to maccas in AGES but their thick shakes were sooo good and stayed down. Perfect for when I was feeling really thirsty and i couldn't drink much of anything.
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 11:32am |
Sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do.
My MW said to be paranoid about Listeria as that's the one that crosses the placenta.
The other nasties will knock you around but I think the risk to the baby is lower (though don't quote me).
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 12:55pm |
OK dumb question but how do you know you have listeria as oppossed to just really crumby ms?
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 1:02pm |
I think the symptoms for Listeriosis are fairly vague, some people don't know for sure they have it but can include fever, chills, aches, headache and other flu-like symptoms; sometimes back pain and the whole stomach-bug type thing...
But it's my understanding the only reliable way to tell if you've got it is through a blood test so if you suspect you do have it, get onto to your MW immediately and get the BT.
Hope this doesn't sound too drastic and give you the complete heebie-jeebies!
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Posted: 25 April 2010 at 1:49pm |
One of the big things she talked about was huge temperature swings - going from really hot and temp spiking, to shivering and freezing. That's meant to be quite dangerous.
I've had 3 tummy bugs this pregnancy and have been completely paranoid about "what if it's listeria". I ended up having my NF scan a bit early just to set my mind at ease! As a result of the scares, I have reverted to being a bit more paranoid about my diet and hand hygiene.
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