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    Posted: 18 January 2010 at 8:52am

Hi all

Am interested in getting your responses to a messy situation I find myself facing!

As many of you will know from  some of my unhappy posts the last couple of years, DF and I have been fostering a chid who is closely related to DF and whom he has basically raised from birth.

Without giving the long, complicated and sad story here in detail, I though when DF and I moved in that the child biological father would eventually step up (and grow up) and do the right thing by this kid. He was making all the right noises but then he unexpectadly died about 4 days after we found out I was pg with Clodagh.

I can pinpoint that its from about that time I have found myself struggling harder and harder with this child as I realised we were 'it' (his parents now) ...abeit by default. There is also a wee girlwho has been orphaned by this targedy and all eyes of the family are on us to take her too...more stress!

I do not want to do this any longer. My health- both physical and mental- has suffered quite badly since this all happened and yet I have been the one who has tried and tried and tried to find a solution to accomodating this wee boy into our lives. I"ve had councelling, talked to MMH, had social workers come and work with us (well, ME)..and all os them say it's such a difficult tricky situation and that any depression or health issues I have had are hugely situational (so def not PND).

Things have come to a climax the last few days when MIL stated I wasn't raising this child to her likeing (DF and I are v strict with him...he needs strong boundries as he's very manipulative and has some emotional problems). She would prefer it if we spoilt him and 'Nana'ed him...precisiely what he DOESN'T need.  She also said I'd been trying to break up DF adn this child for ages! WTF?  I've done the total opposite and tried to nurture and encourage a strong r'ship bewteen them and everything else has been done on my own. Quite frankly it's like someone gave me this ncie albeot confused 5 year old and said'right Emmecat, now PARENT this child. Don't worry about DF he's too busy to support you and we certainly won't but make sure you do a good job etc'.

Anyway, since that wee converstaion, I just suddenly decided: That's it. I don't HAVE to do this. I'm under no legal obligation and arguably under no moral one either. The thought of not having to deal with this child or the problems or the family fills me with lightness and relief.  I've been thinking about it for a long time (over a year) and tried so hard to tell DF how I"m feeling and what might help (support) and trying to get him in on it but all to no avail.

I now face a situation where I would rather parent CLodagh on my own than her and this boy with DF.  It's that bad for me. I have told DF I'm more than happy to still be involved on weekends with the boy and that I will support him 100% if he feels he has to go and live with his mum and our foster son.....he can always visit us whenever he wants and the door is always open. He doesn't want to do this. He wants to stay in the statas quo but it's just not working at all. I hate my life like this. HATE IT.

It's a tricky situation with no easy or good solution really. I don't hate this child, I feel sorry for him but he's never wanted to live with us, he wants to live with his Nana although we can all see he won't flourish there. They won't hear of puttng him or his wee sister into a outside family foster home or with other younger couples in the family...and she's far too old to cope for much longer, esp with two of them! So what else can I do?????

I think I've been hugely selfless, tried my absolute best in a horrible sitaution that most women would walk away from..and even now I'm still trying to come to a compromise but that's it...I'm no longer willing to be the primary caregiver to this child. If I was single I would've walked away long ago.

Do I have a right to make this decision and leave Clodagh without a live-in Dad? I SOOOO do not want that but from where I sit, it's the better alternative of two unpleasant outcomes.

What would YOU do?


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Sorry for the spelling! ALso, we are now NOT TTC. Obviously lol

I should also add...I feel like I've not been able to really enjoy raising Clodagh as there's always been another very very needy child to deal with and from day one I've had to work around that.  I've just come to a point where I just want to be alone with her and love her and do my best by her...at the moment she's getting a burnt out Mummy, a stressed out daddy and quite a few arguements...although we try not to argue in front of her, she must sense the tension sometimes and I don't want that.



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All I can say is...wow. Definitely a tricky situation to be in. You've probably done this already, but what I would do is lay all my cards down on the table...so to speak. I'd tell DF anything and everything that is on your mind regarding the situation. Explain how the lack of support is causing you major health issues, which impacts not only on the raising of your foster son, but also your daughter. Explain that it's something that's been festering for over a year...and that it's not a good place for you to be emotionally or mentally. Tell him what you need to happen in order for this situation to work positively...

My heart goes out to you, it's a huge thing to deal with, and I just hope you get the support you deserve.



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If you took the child out of the equation what are your feelings towards your DF?

maybe the alternative is to let him live with his nana, and have him over for weekends. effecitvely that is what you would be doing if you left anyway...

when you say "they" wont put him with younger family members i'm not sure who you are refering to but if it is an agency then if you withdraw yourself as a candidate then surely they would have no other alternative anyway.   

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Hi ooEvaoo- I've told DF absolutely EVERYTHING. All the time. He just doesn't want to hear it. He's very much from the 'ignore it and it'll go away' camp.  Even now he refuses to really discuss it with me.  He won't go for councelling. He won't let the social worker be involved anymore. EVERYTHING has been my responsibility. This includes not just has foster son but his taxes and child support for his other 2 kids which ended up just thousands in debt cos he kept ignoring the mounting bills....all cause dby a tax evasion by his old boss...all left for me to sort out whislt heavily pg and with a newborn! He's a lovely 'nice' guy but just doesn't face up to some of his responsibilites (although he will take on this child that noone else wanted so he's not all bad!)... it's like the whole family sensed I am capable so they've all really run with that!

I don't want to do it anymore  


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TBH I can't really offer advice but from reading your posts above I kinda think you have made your decision on what needs to happen to benefit you and your wee girl.

I hope that you have family support from your side to help you work thru what is a very challenging and emotional time for you.
       
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Hi Bizzy- my feelings toward DF now are affection for him as he's the father of my beloved baby- and he's so good with her and loves her so much...but as a hubby, my feelings have changed quite a lot the last year due to all that he's quite frankly put me through  I've hung in there cos I don't want my daughter being raised in a fatherless home...studies show it's so bad for them.  But surely it's worse to be raised in a home where everyone is unhappy?


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well i think you have answered the question then emmecat. if you dont love him then staying with him just for the sake of a foster child you dont love either and your daughter isnt going to make for a healthy relationship. At the end of the day if we dont teach out children about what constitutes a healthy relationship then they will just repeat the mistakes we make, regardless of how many live in parents they have.

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Maybe you could try leaving on a temporary basis, like it is a break away to let DF know that you are serious and it would give both of you a chance to breathe and reassess the situation?
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Hi Emmecat, I'm sorry to hear you are going through such a bad time at the moment. To be perfectly honest it doesn't sound like things are going to change at any time soon. Perhaps it is time for the rest of the family to step up and someone else take on the primary responsibility for this child. If you withdraw from the situation they will have no choice but to step in. It sounds like there is no one family that can care for this child/children, perhaps a shared care situation may end up working best for everyone but I would let them make those decision not you.

Yes, you do have a right to make the decision to raise Clodagh on your own, and yes you do have the right to make the decision to not raise this other child. No its not fair for Clodagh to not have her father there 24/7 but he is the one making that choice not you. You are just giving him options and letting him make a choice. I suspect once he realises that it has come to this he will act. Men can be a bit slow on the uptake sometimes.
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Originally posted by Emmecat Emmecat wrote:

Hi Bizzy- my feelings toward DF now are affection for him as he's the father of my beloved baby- and he's so good with her and loves her so much...but as a hubby, my feelings have changed quite a lot the last year due to all that he's quite frankly put me through  I've hung in there cos I don't want my daughter being raised in a fatherless home...studies show it's so bad for them.  But surely it's worse to be raised in a home where everyone is unhappy?




Sorry to hear you are having a tough time.

I have read through your posts & I think it comes down to this one, if your feelings have changed for your DF then nothing else is going to be right in the relationship.

You say you have been unhappy for 2yrs....that is a long time.
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I agree with Little Sal. You have to do whats best for you so that you can be there Clodagh.

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Originally posted by LittleSal LittleSal wrote:

Maybe you could try leaving on a temporary basis, like it is a break away to let DF know that you are serious and it would give both of you a chance to breathe and reassess the situation?


I think this is the best advice. Sit his down and tell him that you feel no one is really listening to your needs as well as your daughters needs and you are done talking until someone is willing to listen. Get yourself another place (hope this is possible) or rely on friends or family. Move out for 2 months or so and let him deal with the situtation. Even if he gets help from all his family perhaps they will see that is actually not as easy as they all think.

Let him know that you are open to discuss everything ect but only if they are willing to listen and everyone starts helping out.

This way you get a break and they get to see and not just hear about what is going on. You can get some one on one time with your girl as well.


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Ladies thank you so much for all your thoughtful replies.  I agree with everything you've raised- I HAVE done my dash with the situation now and DF knows this. I'm sure my name will be mud in his family but they should've had a plan B and C...and in fact, not relied on us from day one as it was never our (MY) job to raise this child. I have told DF clearly what I am prepared and not prepared to do so now the ball is in his court. If I know him at all, he'll procrastinate and linger until the situation is made unbearable (probably from his mother) and  only then he'll do something.

I've just finished chatting with my own mum-who totally supports me- and has given me more courage to do what needs to be done. Put it this way- if I was run over by a bus tomorrow and died, who would then look after this child? The family has effectively told me to take this poor kid and parent him- but not the way I see fit-and are now furious that I am no longer willing to put myself in this position. I know the child involved will be well loved and safe and protected where he is, but he won't meet his true potential becuase he'll be spoilt and allowed to manipulate.

But I still feel so much lighter and brighter when I think of my future with Clodagh now I"ve made this difficult decision....so my intuition *must* be right!

 


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Originally posted by Emmecat Emmecat wrote:

But I still feel so much lighter and brighter when I think of my future with Clodagh now I"ve made this difficult decision....so my intuition *must* be right!


Bang on the money there I reckon

hugs for the difficult time you've had and strength for the months ahead. We are all here for you!

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Thanks weegee....sometimes I don't know how I'd get through some this this stuff without you lot

Just wondering.....are there many single or seperated parents on these forums?


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Hi Emmecat...
Big hugs...

Ive got a mantra... A life half lived is a life not lived. There is no benefit to anyone if you are staying for the children's sake. Sometimes we have to make the hardest choice of all, which is to choose yourself, becasue very obviously you have been putting yourself last, and no one has been "choosing you".

I split from my husband last year till he sorted out the situation with HIS son, as I felt it was no longer my problem and I couldn't put myself and my chidren through any more.
It was the kick in the ass he needed to pull his head out of the sand and look around and see what had been happening.

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I don't have any advice but just wanted to give you a cyber hug

We're all here to support you whatever you decide to do.

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I think you've been amazing and have done everything you possibly can to make this situation work, littlesal's suggestion is a good one.

In the end how this child is raised/turns out isn't solely your responsibility, its the responsibility of his family.

You've done a great job and should be thanked for it, let the rest of his family take some responsibility.

Your main priority should be for your own health and the emotional, mental and physical health of your daughter.   to you and look after yourself.


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Hugs Emmecat, I think you're doing the best thing for yourself and your wee girl.

DH left us when I was pg with #2 and, while he came home for a while, he was sent up north for 2 months and we effectively separated but we still talked on the phone and he talked to Jack. It was the best thing that ever happened, because he knew I was serious that I wasn't letting him back in the house without a) counselling, b) some serious attitude adjustments and c) a lot more support. Now we're doing so much better than we were beforehand.

So just thought I'd let you know that if you do leave and you realise you still love and want your DF, all hope is not lost
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