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Rachael21
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Topic: Weddings - who pays? Posted: 03 May 2008 at 11:16am |
Ok some friends of ours are getting married and asked Ben to be a groomsman. A couple of days ago they told Ben he had to be somewhere today to get a suit and would cost him $110, is it normal for the groomsman to be expected to pay for the suit? and is this a standard price for suit hireage?
Also they have decided they are going to use Bens car (decided they never asked just told Ben) is it rude to expect them to pay for gas?
We are on an extrememly tight budget and it just annoys me that we are having to pay for their wedding and because of that our kids are missing out on stuff.
I don't want this to ruin our friendship but its getting quite hard. Ben doesn't like saying anything to his friends but this particular one has used Ben a few times for his own gain. If its not right I'm going to have to say something to my friend (the girl getting married).
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 11:19am |
Our groomsmen etc are paying for their own stuff. I'm too cheap/our budget doesnt allow for hundreds of dollars of clothing for people. Just talk to them about it :) I'm sure they'll come to some sort of arrangement - or something cheaper for you.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 11:27am |
The thing is this guy is extrememly cheap and quite cheeky. Ben used to have this 1952 chevy, he left it at this boys house one day because there was a hot rod show just down the road. His FIL wanted to buy it, Ben didn't want to sell it.
The friend got Ben drunk and got him to agree to it being sold. The next day Ben went to pick it up and say he didn't want to sell it but it had already gone (along with all the tools in the back). The annoying thing, he gave him $300 when it was worth about $5000. It still annoys me when I think about it but Ben just lets everything go.
Just on a side note these 2 work 3 jobs between them, smoke lots and drink lots. We couldn't afford to smoke and drink even if we wanted to. I think the main issue for me is that they never asked or warned us it would cost this much just told us 2 days ago that he would need the money by today.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 11:43am |
How bout saying to them. "yep, no problem to use our car, but how about you pay for the suit!"
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 12:02pm |
as said before if they are using the car perhaps they can pay for his suit hiraige as hiring a car would cost them more than $110. When we used our friends cars - we had them to the full wedding (when they were orginally only invited to the after party) and after the wedding we sent a professional photo of the car which our wedding photographer took with the drivers standing beside it.. and a $30 voucher. We did not give them petrol for the day on the day but then it was only 5 mins down the road.
as for who pays - yes when you except being a groomsman there is a cost involved and normally most groomsman (or bridesmaid) understands this. Our groomsmen paid for their suits (think it was something around the $100 mark) but they all went together and picked which they wanted.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 12:04pm |
Maybe you need to be completely honest and say that you are on a tight budget and can't afford it and perhaps your Dh will have to pass up on being a groomsman.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 12:20pm |
We paid for our bridesmaids and groomsmen as they were all pretty tight at the time and we wanted themt o be part of the wedding.
I would just do what nzpiper said - or if they don't agree to that just say that you aren't comfortable with them using the car as it means too much running around for you esp as you will be on your own with the 2 kids for the whole day while trying to make yourself look presentable!
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 1:16pm |
We paid for our bridemaids and groomsmans suits and dresses as well. But then we also got some very generous gifts from them.
BTW $110 isn't too bad, we paid $150 for our suits.
Agree with the others if he's using your car for nothing, then the couple getting married should pay for the suit.
Or don't be a groomsman, just go as a guest.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 2:02pm |
We paid for the bestmans and maid of honours suit/dress (we only had 1 each). To be honest I would have felt a bit cheeky asking them to pay, especially since we asked them to be part of the wedding.
I agree with what AnnC said...i think you guys need to be honest with them and explain your situation.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 2:17pm |
Our groomsmen paid for their suits and the bridesmaids paid for the dresses to be made (but we paid for the material). We were on a tight budget and it is pretty standard for the wedding party to contribute to the costs. It is also standard for the bride and groom to give special gifts to the party though.
I will be matron of honour at a wedding next Feb and am expecting to pay for my dress then.
Having said that I think there is nothing wrong with asking them to pay since you are loaning the car (but in which case I would probably include the gas).
I also think there is nothing wrong with being up front and saying you can't afford the costs. I think if I were a bride I would be horrified if I knew that someone had overextended themselves on our account.
and I don't think 2 days is enough notice.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 3:16pm |
I wouldn't expect groomsmen to pay for the hire of a suit, different if they were buying it and would keep it afterwards. I would actually say no. $110 is a lot of money when you are living on a tight budget, I personally think its a bit stink that they would even suggest that he pays for his own suit.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 4:39pm |
RachandJack wrote:
Ok some friends of ours are getting married and asked Ben to be a groomsman. A couple of days ago they told Ben he had to be somewhere today to get a suit and would cost him $110, is it normal for the groomsman to be expected to pay for the suit? and is this a standard price for suit hireage? |
Usually (in my little world) the groom covers it as it goes with the price of the bar tab as something the Grooms family covers (being that the best man represents them and all). But if it is unaffordable then yes it would fall on them to cover the hireage of their own suits and IMO perfectly acceptable.
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Also they have decided they are going to use Bens car (decided they never asked just told Ben) is it rude to expect them to pay for gas? |
Nope, I would insist on it if it is cutting you dry, not a whole tank full mind you but maybe $20 wouldn't go astray!
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We are on an extremely tight budget and it just annoys me that we are having to pay for their wedding and because of that our kids are missing out on stuff. |
I think that responsibility falls directly on your (as a family) own shoulders. When you sign up to be in a wedding party you sign up for the deals that they break as it is their day, not your own.
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I don't want this to ruin our friendship but its getting quite hard. Ben doesn't like saying anything to his friends but this particular one has used Ben a few times for his own gain. If its not right I'm going to have to say something to my friend (the girl getting married). |
If it is financially crippling you then SAY SOMETHING!! Two of my bridesmaids just couldn't afford their wedding shoes and dresses (which they were meant to buy themselves) so we bought them for the girls who couldn't afford it and the paid them off in HP. If worst comes to worst just don't get them a wedding pressie either and just make them dinner one night instead.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 4:53pm |
I'm still in shock that your DH let him away with selling his chevy, I think I would had called the cops and reported it stolen then denied any knowledge of the drunken agreement.
I paid for my groomsmen and bridesmaids outfits in lieu of buying them a thank you gift.
As far as the car goes I would expect them to pay for any petrol that they use (you could give it to them with an empty tank  then they'd have to fill it).
You've said that you don't want to say anything because you're worried it'll ruin the friendship but I think that in not saying anything you're going to stew on it and that will ruin the friendship. You can explain to them that you're on a tight budget and that you're worried that you can't afford to pay for the suit or the petrol etc and see what they say.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 5:23pm |
I cant believe after selling his car he is still on talking terms.
DH groomsmen paid for their suits. They were $65 each and we paid the $200 deposit on them (paid once as a group, not individually). They were told of the cost when they were asked so they knew from the beginning and could pull out or discuss it with us if they werent comfortable with it. That was the only cost to them. We also gave them a gift as our way to thank them for being part of our day.
I would tell them that you are on a tight budget and its one or the other not both!
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 5:30pm |
We paid for our wedding party clothes/jewellery/shoes. And then that was their gift for being part of our day. DH and his bestman picked their outfit (of course i was there supervising!!)and we also didnt expect wedding presents from them either. But we had made the decision at the beginning that we didnt want them paying for clothes that we were choosing. I dont see why you need to give them the $110 now - can't he go in and pick up his suit himself/pay deposit on it. You wont be getting it until a day or so before the wedding anyway??
And you could give them the use of the car as a wedding gift (make sure you tell them this) but work out the details with them, ie who is driving it (insurance!!), how long its needed (can return home after photos?), petrol (so expensive now, not just $20 to drive around town all afternoon). Probably need to bite the bullet an ddiscuss it with them asap. If they are on a budget for the wedding then they should understand.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 6:09pm |
oh yeah I should add we didn't expect or get pressies from the bridal party either.
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Posted: 03 May 2008 at 9:59pm |
Yeah I'm really surprised that he is even talking to this guy - $300 for a $5000 car? No offence, but why the heck didn't you guys call the cops? I would've, or I'd be going on a screaming banshee rampage to find this guys dad and sock it to him until he either gave the car back (tools included) or paid $5000! And then if they still want Ben as a groomsman, you'll have enough money to pay for it!
Just because they're friends doesn't mean you should put yourselves in financial hardship for their wedding. I would sit down with them and discuss the issues you brought up here. My sister always goes on about how it cost her $700 to be in my wedding, but in actual fact I asked them to pay $70 if they wanted their hair professionally done, and everything else was paid for. (She included tanning, getting her nails done and buying her dress off my mum as 'necessities')
Anyway, I would talk to them about it. Is there any reason why Ben would not talk to him? Seems kinda strange that they would expect him to pay after ripping him off (basically stealing his car)
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Posted: 04 May 2008 at 3:18pm |
Ben is quite trusting and lets his friends do whatever the want because he thinks they would do the same for him. It drives me mad but if I say anything he gets mad at me. I can't stand this particular friend I have soooo many stories of him basically ripping us off for his own gain. They have been friends since they were small so Ben can't see it.
Seems we got the wrong end of the stick, the suits don't need to be paid for for quite a while but just needed to be fitted yesterday. The bride and groom are also puttig in some money. So We are just going to let that one go and pay for the suit.
I will be saying something about the car. Its Bens baby hes already had one stolen (this one is a tribute to his first baby) so it will be him driving it (I'm not even allowed to drive it) and it will be going straight home to his garage after. I will be saying this to them because they don't seem to understand every part of his car is brand new (apart from the shell lol). Its a V8 so uses a lot of gas and they live a good 30 mins (along 100k roads) so will cost a bit of gas. I might just sit down and talk to my friend because shes a bit more reasonable.
Thanks for all the advice, its been really helpful.
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