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     Topic: Would you speak up?     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:16am | 
 
 
  
   
   
   As you all know there are quite a few cases of child abuse (and abusive partners etc) and sometimes when you read through the articles neighbours are quoted as saying that they noticed odd behaviour or they were shocked to see a toddler wandering the streets unsupervised or they heard screaming etc. 
These people come forward and mention these things in hindsight but didn't alert authorities at the time.  I guess we live in a society of "what we don't know doesn't hurt us" and "it's better to keep our nose out of things that don't involve us". 
  
What would you do if you suspected abuse in one of your neighbours homes? 
  
I'd really like to say when push comes to shove I'd step in and call the police. 
  
I've never been in an extreme situation but when I was preg we lived next door to a couple who were always fighting and I woke from one of my afternoon naps because he was throwing objects across the room and they were banging against the bedroom wall behind me.  I did nothing, just waited for the tirade to stop. 
Later on we got a neighbour that screamed at her 8yo son and called him awful names.  Not all the time, sometimes they seemed to get on really well but other times she was a real b!tch.  Again I minded my own business but when he was being ultra noisy late at night I got into the habit of tapping on his bedroom window and asking him to be quiet rather than talking to his mum, so he wouldn't get yelled at. 
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:19am | 
 
 
  
   
   
   I used to not say or do anything, but up until recently we had some neighbours that clearly were abusing their kids and themselves!
 One night it got so bad I ended up calling the police and it turned out I was about the 5th call in the past 15 minutes!  It was sort of nice to know other neighbours had called.
 I know I would want someone to call if they thought Sam or I was in danger   
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:48am | 
 
 
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   I would deff like to think that I would call the police.As you said I would hope someone would do the same for me and the kids.Sometimes Im sure women or children that are being abused are waiting and wishing for someone to take the decision outa there hands to ask for help.Hingsights a great thing isnt it.....
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:52am | 
 
 
  
   
   
   I would speak up!!! 
 
I have once before and the father came over and started yelling at me. He knew I had rung the police because he saw me questioning his 7 year old son who had a black eye and a very swollen arm.
 The kid tried to tell me it was from the sun. What?
 It turned out his arm had been broken for 2 weeks the children were removed and put into cyfs care. I ended up moving away from the neighbourhood because the threats became so bad. But I would still do it in a heartbeat. He would have ended up killing one of thoses kids and I could not have lived with that! Gee the stories from south Auckland    
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:55am | 
 
 
  
   
   
      Well done Neoshasmummy.  I think you definitely made the right decision. 
  
When you look at it that way - weighing up the inconvenience of moving compared to a childs life - it's not a tough choice really. 
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 11:57am | 
 
 
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   Well if it was that obvious that there is obuse I would call the cops YES. But most time its hard to say.
 
 For example this morning I decided that need to trim the nails on DD's toes...so I took off her socks and as I was about to start she screamed and screamed and screamed untill I finished. Any one would have thought that I was hitting her. I hope no one ever calls the cops on us.....as we never hit DD and never will. LOL
 
 I also hate to see small children wondering aroun the street at 7-8pm....
 
 
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 12:04pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   
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    Well done Neoshasmummy.  I think you definitely made the right decision. 
   
 When you look at it that way - weighing up the inconvenience of moving compared to a childs life - it's not a tough choice really.  |   
Exactly!  I Can sleep at night! I hope that son of a b***h CAN'T!
     
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 12:44pm | 
 
 
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   Yep I would call the police. I have done in the past for domestic arguments but thankfully have never come across a child that I felt may be being abused. 
 Thankfully the area we are in is nice and peaceful and our neighbours are generally older (although you just never know) but I have to admit when living elsewhere to being one of those neighbours that's got their ear to the window whenever I heard something.
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:08pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   I don't hesitate to call the police if I know what I can hear is someone being hurt - done it before, plenty of times.  We have a habit of attracting abusive neighbours in the houses surrounding ours.  The family who used to be right next door were the worst - he was a big, strong, very violent man who took it all out on his partner, and there were kids who lived with it all.  When I heard them starting up (he got really very violent), I'd go over there and bang on the door until she'd come out, and I'd call the police.  The last time it happened, we heard all the shouting and banging, SIL was staying at the time and she sat there terrified listening to him, we called 111, and then the kids arrived at our house, saying that he was holding a large knife against her!  Thankfully the police arrived just then and dealt with him quickly, but nothing any of us did or said got her to shift away from him.  It was really heartbreaking.  They moved away, and sometimes I wonder if she's still alive... she seemed the loveliest lady, and there was something so special about those kids.  We've got neighbours now who fight violently and loudly on occasion - I don't feel stink about ringing the police.  I'd hate to think that I'd been part of letting someone get away with treating a person so badly.   
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:10pm | 
 
 
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   I would and I have.
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:26pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   I was thinking about this some more over lunch and thinking about what you said Roskana about your DD screaming her head of just because her nails were being cut.  To tell the truth I'd rather have police knock on my door to check up on Michaela if the neighbours heard her screaming than the knowledge that my neighbours wouldn't do anything. 
Part of the issue is that many of us don't get to know our neighbours so we can't differentiate between a neighbour who's kids screaming because they're having a tanty as opposed to a neighbour whose kid's screaming because their being repeatedly violently abused. 
  
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 2:46pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 2:51pm | 
 
 
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   I would too!! 
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 3:08pm | 
 
 
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   I think the fact that the police havent been called on me yets is a miracle. The amount of screaming my child does people must seriously think we are bad parents. If I tell her it is say for exxample bed time she can scream until she is blue in the face. 
 
 She also lately started crying and saying oh that hurts when not one of us are even touching her. Talking about her heart ect. 
 
 I will call if I think there is abuse, specially if it is more than once ect. 
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 3:10pm | 
 
 
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   In my previous job I often had to make referrals to CYFS when I suspected abuse, so wouldn't hesitate to call the police or CYFS.
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 3:24pm | 
 
 
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   I wouldnt think twice about it if I thought the kids were being hurt. We live close to a group of state houses, that are in a serious state of dis-repair, (apparently they are going to tear them down and build new ones), so there are old weathboards, and other assorted old house cr*p all over the place,  and there are often very little kids in nappies and nothing else playing on the road and in the gutters, it absolutley breaks my heart, but I know that there is nothing I can do about it. I am terrified that someone will come speeding down the road and hit one of them. We (me and all my neighbours) know that they play in the road so we are always keeping an eye open when driving, but if you didnt know then there is a real risk of hitting one of them. 
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 3:31pm | 
 
 
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   I wouldn't hesitate. I'd rather make the call and be wrong than not and someone get really hurt. But at least if theres that possibility of something wrong happening in a neighbouring house I know I've at least made an effort to alert someone to it.
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 7:04pm | 
 
 
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   Yup, before my parents and I moved to the country we lived next door to a dude who beat his partner and my parents called the police several times, even turned the hose on him a couple of times. Quite close to home for us as my mum's first husband was a very violent, cruel man.
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 7:16pm | 
 
 
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   yep you never know it may be the time they get awy
    
   
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     Posted: 18 June 2008 at 8:23pm | 
 
 
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   Im very lucky that i have never been in the situation where i've had to make that decision.
 
 But if i even hestitated for a millisecond, i think all i'd have to do is picture the Kahui twins, or that little boy who went back at 3 to his birth mother , or Nia Glassie , or any of the many victims , and i would be reminded that perhaps if someone had spoken out for them , their outcomes would have been different (better different) 
 So yes, children unfortunatly don't have enough of a voice, and rely on us to speak up for them , so yes, i would.
    
   
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