is it nature or upbringing?

I think it's a little of both. The way a child reacts to being taught all these things depends on what they are like, some take longer than others, and aheck of a lot more work..

Paris was easy as, cos she couldn't move for so darn long. but also cos she had the language skills etc and understanding. we have the holding an adults hand rule.. ie they hold someones hand or get stuck in the buggy/a trolley at a shop where there are trolleys. and also the "hand on the car" game for when we get to the car or are getting out. while waiting they have to have their hands on the car at all times. paris picked all this up soo easily.

Ayja, on the other hand is alot more stubborn and more work, but slowly she is picking it up because we have reminded paris that ayja learns from her so if we want ayja to do stuff then she will copy paris doing it.

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PS. I wouldn't describe your kids as badly behaved, just busy!

I think its a bit of both but mainly just in the personality for eg if you or DH were busy kids then your children may get that from you. I dont have a very busy child but my sister has a VERY! busy boy (1yr older than Bay) and we have raised our boys pretty much the same way which is why im inclined to say that its just in the nature

Also how do you define a naughty child? Just because they would rather run around than sit down and listen doesn't make them naughty.

eomachine wrote: I thought your two boys were delightful! They weren't destructive or mean to other children. They seemed like really happy, cute, inquisitive little boys.

thanks...sometimes i think i could swap inquisitive for mindless obedience tho!

I think that Supernanny shows really 'naughty' children, and by how she fixes them up, shows that it is nurture to the largest degree.

i do believe that some things are definitely nature though, especially things like highly destructive psychotic elements (serial killers for example), but we aren't really talking about those sorts of kids! Lol
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You get naughty (which all kids are to a degree) and then you get bratty behaviour. (dont think I need to explain the difference here, now do I? )

My father use to tell me we were as kids almost totally impossible. We had so much energy and living on a farm we use to shout and scream and run around wild, which was fine until we get into the city. Some people would have called us unruly, he called us being normal kids and just kids being kids.

Bratty behaviour to me is more due to nurturing than nature. Some extent it might be nature but they learn certain behaviour and they learn it more from the primary caregiver.

Now I am not saying if your child starts acting up it is totally the mothers fault but I usually try to sit back and think about it for a bit (when McKayla starts acting up more) and 99% of the time I can usually figure out what happened and it will be in relation to something that either happened in the family or what I did ect. Hope I am making sense here?

Shirena, I agree with you - but have to say that when they are 2+ you sometimes have times when you can't actually figure out what is causing them to scream/throw a tantrum etc etc.. that's why it's called the terrible twos (although I've heard the threes are worse )

Even after all the chocolate that BSDH fed to Maya lol!

ha ha Bombshell.. they always behave wonderfully in the public eye when they get attention.. it's behind closed doors that they turn back into their interesting selves