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baalamb
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 8:42am |
It's definitely not b!tchy when you say you know what's right for your daughter. That's 'being a mum'. I could scream at some professionals when they tell me what's best for my baby when I know full well it's not right/not going to improve the situation etc... (like my friggen male doctor when I was having issues breastfeeding! It was making Ashlee sick and he said 'go see a lactation consultant' grr! That wouldn't have solved the problem. Completely new thread for that!!!)
Anyway, we're going to start solids when Ashlee starts waking again in the night, or finishing her bottle in minutes flat and screaming for more, no matter what her age is at that stage.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 8:44am |
ok, so all arguments against starting solids seam to stem from possible pre-existing dairy issues (just the impression I got from the posts).
Like Kelly said, it's rare to get allergies from fruit & veg (that's all I have been giving Caitlin.)
As per the warning on the formula tin "do not exceed recommended amounts unless under medical guidance". If she is downing 200mls (and also 250mls last night), water works for about 30 mins before she realises you tried to fool her - what else is there but a few teaspoons of pears?!!??
I didn't realise this issue would get so heated
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 8:47am |
Toni babe do what you feel is right if u wanna put bubs on some pears try it for 4 days and if she has a reaction to it you will know by then! Just keep up her water coz i have noticed that Ellas poops are firmer! hehe oh and stinkier  LOL
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 8:54am |
My nana tried to tell me that giving Taine some baby rice at 3 weeks would be fine. "thats what we did", yeah Nana and you used to put a shot of whiskey into the bottle to help baby sleep too. Not too sure thats a good idea.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 9:13am |
LOL at the shot of whiskey! What is it with older parents and their whiskey?! lol
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baalamb
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 9:30am |
Yeah hubby grew up on whiskey and had solids at 6 weeks!  nuh-uh!!
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 9:32am |
I agree with Emma - the later the better when starting solids. 4 months is the absolute earliest a baby's digestive system can cope with solid food. I know it is tempting to try them earlier, I really wanted to, but it's sooooo not good for them. Breastmilk or formula is all they need up until at least 4 months, but 5 or 6 is ideal. Like you have said, everyone has the right to make their own choices, but make sure they are informed ones or it could be harmful to baby's immune and digestive systems.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 9:39am |
6 weeks is WAY early!!! haha Explains alot about him 
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 10:03am |
Gripe water used to contain alcohol too... when I had Maya my mum was surprised that it doesn't anymore
I'm not trying to get involved in an argument about whats best for which baby here, I completely agree that Mum knows best. But I felt I needed to share our story because I was pressured into starting solids way too young by the Plunket nurse, and being a first time Mum I assumed that she knew best. And that's why I made it very clear by saying it is only my opinion.
Clare is right tho that a baby's digestive system and immune system are both affected by starting solids regardless of when you start them, and the earlier this happens the higher the chance they will develop an allergy regardless of what actual foods you give them. The older they get the more resistant their immune system gets so the less chance of developing an allergy. We had only a very vague family history of lactose intolerance and eczema, no milk protein allergy at all and yet Maya was badly affected so you can't always predict these things. And when your child is as sick as Maya was it is the hardest thing in the world to watch, so if I can help anyone else avoid going thru such a horrible experience then it's worth it.
I also should add tho that completely aside from starting solids, Maya also had a small amount of dairy formula as a newborn when I had mastitis which her paed believes triggered the allergy to begin with, so if your babies are coping ok with dairy formula the chance of developing a dairy allergy is remote.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 10:10am |
Yer i wondered about that coz i found alot of older women asked if we gave gripe water and were shocked when i said yes when she was younger until you mention it has no alcohol!
Yer everyone has their own experiences, Ella has a dairy Allergy but has been coping extremely well on her veges and pears. (Shes been on pears for awhile) the plunket nurse i have told me to do solids 4 days in a row coz by the 4th day u will know if they have a reaction to it. Everyone and every baby is different. I just have until hearing Emmas story never heard of anyone giving their babies solids earlier and having problems so to speak.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 12:55pm |
the only "reaction" Caitlin has had is that she can poo more regularly and without any discomfort. Before we gave her any fruit puree she was so constipated that she ended up having a tear from one hole to the next and was extremely distressed each time she pee'd/poo'd/farted (that was after 3 days of not going, GP said it was ok to leave her for 7 days!  ).
Anyways, I appreciate that doing this "could" lead to food allergies later in life, but I feel we did the right thing for her to help her with a major problem she had right now and on the scale of things I would rather she had an allergy to pears than to have to live with constipation.
**I hope no one takes this rant personally, that is not my intention at all**
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 1:35pm |
Hi ladies, just in support of those who decide at solids at 3mos is best for their babies.... that's when I started eating solids (it was the common thing, in 1983) and even though there is a small dairy intolerance thing running through the family, I have got off scot-free.
I agree Plunket don't know everything (sometimes they really get me going!!  ), take all advice as opinions and go with your gut feeling in the end.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 2:07pm |
I'd like to ask another question about this as my boy is 4 mnths 3 weeks and i have just started to give him 2 tsp of farex at night but since then he seems to have lost interest in his bottles. He was doing 200mls x 5 pretty well every day but suddenly is only drinking 100-120 mls even if he seemed really hungry. He also plays around biting the teat or pushing it out of his mouth. His weight isnt a problem so should I worry about this decrease in appetite or just continue with what I'm doing? He loves feeding off a spoon even if its just water.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 2:25pm |
I wouldnt worry to much. Addison takes anywhere from about 120-160mls about 5 times a day, she has never even wanted anymore than that but she is a right little chubby girl so definatly not needing anymore.
When Kobe was little and we were in hospital with his surgery at about 3.5-4months they kept trying to give us food for him, i told then heaps that he wasnt on solids and they were all surprised.
I was also told that because he is on a dairy based formula if he was going to have a reaction he would have had it to that but Im still going to hold addison out as long as possible, only cos i know once i start with solids theres no going back.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 3:19pm |
I got told to give the bottle first before the solids coz ur only topping them up so to speak. Do you give the farex before or after the bottle? If Ella doesnt drink all her bottle (rarely ever happens) i dont give her the solids.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 3:35pm |
I am in the same boat Jess, Olivia has times where she picks and chooses what she eats so I just split bottles, half before and half for after. Funnily enough, solids make Olivia more hungry.
You have to watch with feeding reflux bubbahs food as increase can make the reflux worse and large amounts can as well. When Olivia was having quite a bit of one meal a day I changed it to more smaller meals so her tummy could digest it a bit better, she got a little refluxy but it settled down with routine.
When I first started I picked the time of the day were she always tries to down the whole bottle (which was some time after lunch).
sminxs, same thing with offer bottle before and after, but the minimum is 600mls. What about giving solids earlier in the day? This will also cancel out any concerns you could have over allergic reactions. Olivia has reflux so introducing food initially I kept it so that she had plenty of time left in the day to see how her belly reacts.
Also have you checked in his wee mouth? Red cheeks? Olivia chews up the nipples of her bottle outrageously when she is teething (she has 2 teeth). You could even go the flip side of the coin and stop offering solids (or as much solids) for a few days to see how he goes.
If you are genuinely concerned and the Plunket nurses "hes fine" is not satisfying you then I would suggest taking him to a GP.
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 4:22pm |
Ellas been fine with hers if anything shes improved slightly with being on that amount. Shes never spilled or brought up any solids. She still spills her milk exactly the same as before so im not concerned. I to give it to her when shes most hungry which tends to be in the morning and at night
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Posted: 02 November 2006 at 4:25pm |
Bottle/breast definitely first till after 9 months. They need the milk more than the solids until then.
Not trying to be an expert or anything, but the only benefit of having a sick baby was having a dietician on hand to guide me thru the whole solids thing when Maya was smaller.
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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 12:55pm |
Jack was having at least 8 feeds a day until he started solids I was so tired but I waited til 4 motnhs because of a family history of allergies. Jack had mild reflux so I was told to start at 4 months for that. It's hard with all the conflicting advice but I would personally wait til 4 months and maybe try giving more bottles. Keep with the little bits for her constipation but maybe not every day til 4 months. After all its only a couple of weeks and she might be having a growth spurt that might settle down. The later they start the better (for you its suc a hassle cooking up batches of food lol)
We started Jack at lunch time and fed him his milk and then wee bits of solids. He had 2 feeds that first day cos he gobbled 2 spoons down. It was laso the day he stopped having night feeds.
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