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Thats so not on. At our preschool (kindercare) its a cooked vegetarian lunch and its soooo yummy but they would never withhold afternoon tea that is so wrong. Also some days kids just don't want to eat much and that is fine they shouldn't be punished for it.
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Wow thats awful.

At our daycare food is just offered and its up to the kids what they do, how dare they, maybe he just wasn't hungry at that time.

Its up to you to decide the rules, if you had said look he needs to eat his main meal first, but withholding food - just mean mean mean oh and wrong

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Thats disgusting, and I would be a bit sus (going by your other post) that they are maybe trying to push you into pulling him out? What a pack of assholes.
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Originally posted by fattartsrock fattartsrock wrote:

Thats disgusting, and I would be a bit sus (going by your other post) that they are maybe trying to push you into pulling him out? What a pack of assholes.


I have to agree - sounds like they want to make his daycare experience as uncomfortable as possible. Have them up about next time he's there.

Totally unacceptable behaviour from grown ups IMO!
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I'm another on the OMG wagon!

Over the school holidays, I withheld food from my almost 6 year old, Id never do it to a 3 year old. I did it cause she had to learn set meals times & she knew she was allowed food at 10, 12 & 2.30, only took her a day & a half to realise I was serious. She was old enough to learn that concequence, a 3 year old is not!

But no wonder your son is acting up...that is crap crap food. If you are feeding him low preservative foods, no wonder he's acting up at daycare after being loaded up with them!
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I'm with Fats and Mel, I think (reading between the lines in your other post) that they are just being mean Which is a horrible thing to say and horrible for your DS, but that's just my gut feeling. I'd be calling them out on it too. And looking for another DC.

I think Kel is probably onto something re that sort of food and his behaviour if you don't feed him those sorts of foods at home...
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Definitely not on. When my kids went to creche they had a rule that you had to eat fruit before the 'treat' of morning or afternoon tea and I now also do that at home.

I'm not sure I agree with the 'your child, your rules' because I would imagine that in a daycare with 20 odd kids, you need to have set rules that other children have to follow....but the rule of starving the child because they wouldn't eat lunch is not acceptable and very hard to understand that that would be there policy. Is this policy documented...if so, maybe make an offical complaint.


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Yeah I'd be wild about that and I'd also be laying a complaint.

I haven't got to solids yet with my man but I know when we were kids, if we refused to eat, we had the food taken away, had to sit at the table til everyone else was finished and we weren't alloowed anything else to eat until the next meal (which in your sons case was the afternoon tea).

But the whole thing was, if you don't eat whats put in front of you then don't ask for anything else between now and your next meal.

I'd also be pretty angry at them serving up such crappy food to growing children. Where are the nutrients that these gowing kids need???


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I'm an ECE teacher have worked in various daycares and kindy's for th elast 10 years.

They are NOT alllowed to withhold food from a child.
It is a regulation that food must not be withheld or used as a form as punishment, just like they are not allowed to smack a child, we as ECE teachers legally can't reuse to feed a child under any circumstances.

As centres are licensed by the ministry of education contact them and tell them what happened they should do a spot check. No centre is allowed to do this. This IS NOT O.k. Food should never be used to punish a child.

Talk to the centre manger, lay a complaint and i would take it further if you get no luck form her.
Be stong they ar ein the wrong.

It is horrible and i'm ashamed as an ECE teacher, that this happens!
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just to add:

Also ERO (education review office) ( part of the ministry of ed) would be horrified to hear of this.

The centre would get into HEAPS of trouble.

Tell them they legally can't withhold food!!!!

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eww at 2 minute noodles..yeah cant say I blame your son for not wanting to eat that crap.

but yes I would be furious if they with held food from my child at the next meal cause she did not her lunch. you cannot make a child eat something but it is cruel to withhold food from them at the next meal.

sometimes my daughter doenst eat breakfast but I always make sure she has something at morning tea.

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I haven't read your other post (will go and find it though!) but I think withholding food is outrageous. It makes me very sad to think that carers would do that to a child. It's simply disgusting.

Sometimes Jackson turns his nose up at lunch and the carers at his day care tell me that they offered him a bit more at afternoon tea to make up for it. That's how it should be. It's completely normal for kids to be fussy or simply not hungry, but to starve them (which is effectively what they are doing) is completely unacceptable.

No child should ever be punished by withholding food. I would definatly complain.

Hugs to you. This would upset me so much.
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That is disgusting food, I can't blame him for not wanting it.
That is really sad, and totally mean to withhold food from your little man. If someone did that to my son I would be heart broken too.
Make a complaint, and make sure you follow it up. I would expect nothing less then a formal apology that is for sure.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sarahm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2010 at 4:37pm

Originally posted by Milo1 Milo1 wrote:

I'm an ECE teacher have worked in various daycares and kindy's for the last 10 years.

They are NOT alllowed to withhold food from a child.

It is horrible and i'm ashamed as an ECE teacher, that this happens!

Was just going to say exactly the same thing!!! If you want some help in knowing what to say etc PM me or Mel can give you my details

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Thank you so much everyone. I have found another centre for him and he'll be starting there at the beginning of March. Unfortunately the new centre have a waitlist for the Tuesday that I need, so will have to find another option quickly for that day.

Mel and Annie - I actually think the same. I think they are actually trying to make his time there horrible, and purposely upset my sensibilites as a parent. I've been speaking to my mum about this - she used to be an Advocate at the Childrens Commission, and when I go in there today to let them know he will be withdrawn from the centre, I'm going to voice my unhappiness at what has been happening. I will also be putting it in writing, for the ERO, and the centre. There have been so many other things happen (physical restraint, pulling on clothes so he ended up with blood marks on his neck....) that I feel obliged to make an issue of it.

Thanks so much ladies. Your comments and advice are fabulous
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wow sounds like that place needs to be shut down...they sound like they are real bullies.

Good on you for standing up for Joshy and you go girl, you make sure you put in the complaint and demand that something be done about it


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yep what kazzle said... also if you need someone for a few interim tuesdays i am not too far from you and could help out if needed...

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I would take it as far as you can with this centre. Complain to anyone and everyone about the treatment of your son.

So happy to hear that you have found a centre that will take him. Good luck
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Originally posted by .Mel .Mel wrote:

I would take it as far as you can with this centre. Complain to anyone and everyone about the treatment of your son.

So happy to hear that you have found a centre that will take him. Good luck

Yep I agree, even letting the local paper know what is happening there as well might open a few more peoples eyes.

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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