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   Kelpa  
   
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     Topic: Soya Milk Formula     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 2:06pm | 
 
 
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   Hello all.
 
 I am trying to decide whether to give Blake a night time only formula feed as I am getting sick of waking up and are thinking maybe this might settle him right down???
 I have noticed that when I eat lots of cheese and milk etc the next day he has massive amounts of wind so kind of decided against the normal formulas.
 Apparently this is common as nuts so Im not going down the road of Lactose intolerant blah blah.
 
 I was thinking of giving him a Soya milk Formula for his last feed and see how we go? Has anyone used this with any success. I want to try keep b/f the other feeds tho.
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 3:03pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   Hey Kelly, the recommendation is for babies to be on a substantial solids diet before moving on to soy as it can make them quite ill and get allergies and deficiencies. I got this information from Roz the moderator at EBB. 
 But this is only knowledge and I think that if you are confident enough about him getting enough from your breastmilk then go for it. (I can't remember how old Blake is and the ticker is down!)
 What about Goat formula, less reactions etc etc or even a formula with no lactose in it? I know Karicare does a really good range of "other" type of formula.
 Good luck with everything! Hope it all goes well   
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 4:52pm | 
 
 
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   Soya formula is really rough, it was the only real option left for us and its been hard for ella on it. Shes not filling up to well and is hungry really quickly after her feeds. I dont know but i think she may also be allergic to soya now aswell.
 
 I would stick to the normal formula if i were you but remember that formula is heavier than breast milk and you may experience a few "rough" nights while he adjusts.
 
 Can you express and feed him that in the night instead of popping the boob on him? May be quicker?
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:28pm | 
 
 
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   1/6 of kids with dairy allergies also are allergic to soy.
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:29pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   Yer we are going through that now to    
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:43pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   argh! i didnt know that about soy.  is it getting more common for dairy allergies or something? i didnt even know anything about it when i was younger but it seems these days so many wee ones are becoming allergic.    
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:44pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
   Babies with reflux are more likely to have allergies unfortunately   
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 6:52pm | 
 
 
  
   
   
     kayla has silent reflux. what are signs or it? dairy allergies and intolerances etc...
     
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 7:18pm | 
 
 
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   I think a lot of kids grow out of allergies as well. A question cos I'm nosey if they can't have milk or soy what do they drink?
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 7:33pm | 
 
 
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   You might not be able to tell about Kayla for sure until after you start introducing solids. Start with fruit/veges well before custards etc. Briona had reflux (3mos) but has no problems with any allergies.
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 7:44pm | 
 
 
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   im not too worried about kayla, but i have been giving her formula 2 bottles, yesterday i gave her 3 and she woke up lots during the night pooping and has a nasty nappy rash, her first one. wondering if it was a reaction to the increase in formula. 
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 8:10pm | 
 
 
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   Kelly - like the others have said SOy is a last resort and is not often recommended for under 6 months as it is harder to digest and on their wee tums. 
 
 Rach, if they can't have milk or soy then they have special hypoallergenic formulas like the pepti ones. Now that Han is over 12months and could have straight cows milk (but not cos of dairy allergy) she is having rice milk.
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 8:37pm | 
 
 
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   Yep, and the Pepti formulas are expensive, smell gross, and are not actually that good for them. We've got Mercedes having some Neocate feeds in addition to the expressed milk as she reacts to the dairy I eat, but Sienna is so far 100% on breastmilk.
 
 Maya had a true milk protein allergy (as in potentially life threatening within minutes of contact) and was intolerant to soy (it upset her digestive system so she didn't absorb any nutrients).
 
 I personally wouldn't use soy formula at all because like others have said it is harsh on the digestive system, and not as complete a food as the cows milk formulas.
 
 It's also worth noting that only 5% of children do have "true" allergies, and only .5% of adults, so the majority of children that have allergies do outgrow them (Maya has outgrown everything except peanuts and sulphur). And that you should talk to your doctor before starting bubs on any alternative formula such as soy. A lot of parents exclude food groups from their babies diets uneccessarily, or mistake their babies symptoms for allergy/intolerance when in fact thats not the case.
 
 
    
   
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     Posted: 11 November 2006 at 9:57pm | 
 
 
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   hmmm not sure about it now.Main goal was to give him a formula feed last thing to try get him to sleep longer. Was thinking because of his reflux etc it could work - bit more thicker in his tummy etc!!!!
 
 As for allergies..I solely breastfed Paige. She never had any formulas and hardly had cows milk at all while she was toddler etc. I gave her homemade fruit and veges and meat until she was a year old...SHE STILL got mild asthma/exczema and HAYFEVER and develops a stupid cough if she eats too much dairy til this day! So who knows! I get asthma and have bad eczema so Blake will probably get some form of it anyway!
 
 
 
 
    
   
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