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im fine with gay couples! in fact i think they are halerious!! they always seem to have great personalities..well the ones iv had the pleasure of knowing anyway my DH is a huge homophobic! and it drives me nutts!! funny how he LOVES the thought of lesbians though!!!???

Im like some of the others - i dont mind the PDAs as long as its kept to a minimum! which is what i think about straight couples too!

I also think that thats awsome if they want to have kids and bring them up in a loving enviroment
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I spoke to my friend about this and she has a friend who is in a lesiban relationship and she has had 2 chidlren and her partner has had 1. She said the cost of them to get the children was something that they couldn't just wake up one morning and go lets have a child.

OMG Amber my dad is like that to with gay men but woman are ok, its like WTF?!?!?!

I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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aww now see i dont mind pdas, even full on ones. i just think it is nice that some people are so happy they cant contain themselves.   and i would hope to teach my girls that too.

we are hicks from a hick town, as when in wellington last my dh's eyes were on stalks most of the time, so many gay women couples holding hands and kissing in public... he kept wanting to follow them lol.

i have no problem with gay parents, as long as they are happy, kids are happy. i think its better to have a gay couple modelling a healthy, happy relationship, than an unhappy hetero couple, or an unhappy hetero pair who have split and use the children they have together as ammunition against each other.

i watched an awesome documentary on the doc channel about 2 men who were trying for a baby with a surrogate, they took their sperm and mixed it together, and turkey basted the surrogate until she fell pregnant. she miscarried and they were so devestated. they tried again and got their baby, both were at the (water, home birth) and were besotted with their little girl. it was magic to watch, i cried the whole way through. and they did dna tests to see who was the father, and then about 18 months later they tried again, using the non-bio dad's sperm with the same surrogate, and were blessed with another little girl.
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May as well give my 2cents worth.

I don't have any problems or opinions regarding peoples sexual orientation that's a private matter and up to them. I don't broadcast my sex life to anyone else so don't see that they should either.

On the subject of same sex parents in theory I would see there isn't any problem with this either.
However I do know of two women who have children together, (some are from a previous relationship and they had a son through Fertility Associates.)

I do wonder if some of the problems they are having with their older teenage son are to do with being raised by two women and no dad around.

I don't think it compares to being raised by a single parent either.

This probably goes against my normally liberal views, but if by being in a same sex relationship means that you are lacking in the vital components (X and Y) to produce children, them that may suggest that you shouldn't have children.

Once money comes into it children become a commodity.

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My viewpoint is pretty simple...

Biblically I don't agree with it. But I do have gay friends and I love them to death...they do know my biblical standpoint but they also know it doesn't change the fact that I still love them, it's something I've always been honest about.


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two of mjy friends were gay one man one woman and are now married to each outher with two kids they are great renets and it donst relly matter weather people are gay or not all that matters is if they are good pernets i worked in bars and the number of times i have had to kicked out gay bashers before they were going to bash some poor gay guy or girl is unbeliveble
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Originally posted by fleury fleury wrote:

I do wonder if some of the problems they are having with their older teenage son are to do with being raised by two women and no dad around.


Perhaps but you don't know that either. Sometimes problems occur just because of a childs friends choice or random other things. My parents have problems with my brother, it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference what sex my parents are.

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So many guys are always like that, like lesbians but not gays. My ex was like that, loved coming to stay at my house with anita and selena living there and playing around in the next room with paper thin walls but if he saw people "who looked gay" he got really sh*tty.
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Well I can speak about this from experience.
My Mum is a lesbian and is 'married' to another woman.

I can safely say that she is the coolest, most LOVING, caring, honest, generous, HAPPY, giving, woman I have ever come across and I can also assure you that neither me or my brother or sister are screwed up in anyway because of it.

Through my Ma, I know a lot of gay/lesbian couples, some with children, some without.

I know two couples, two gay man, the other two lesbian woman. One of the men & one of the woman REALLY wanted a child so they used the turkey baster method and now they have a gorgeous, happy little toddler who is adored by all them.
While I had my own reservations about this at the time, after seeing him with his parents they melt away.

Gay/Lesbian couples still have the abiltity to love and care for a child the same and inmany cases BETTER than some straight couples.

I don't see a problem with it at all.

I also disagree with the comment about two males having a girl and needing a females role model and vice versa.
There a a million and one single parents out there who do not have role models of the opposite sex for their kids and they do fabulously.

I don't think its fair that just becasue hetrosexual couples are seen as 'the norm' that they shoudl miss out on the good thinsg in life, like marriage and babies.
They are people too with the same feelings.... Imagine being told you weren't allowed to have a baby or worse still, imagine people telling you that it is wrong to have a baby.

Im glad as the years go by it is becoming a more accepted thing in society, its about time!





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I too can speak from experience. My mum came out as a lesbian when I was 15 and is still with the same partner almost 19 years later.

I can honestly say it was a tough road at the beginning. Not so much the lack of male contact or role models... My father was killed when I was 6, so it had mostly just been me, mum and my brother. What was hard was dealing with the gossip etc which was rife, given we lived in a small town. That would be the one downside to having two mums.

The upside is having two loving and supportive parents, who were absolutely amazing with their blended family (mum's partner has three children as well).

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Originally posted by Parki Parki wrote:


Gay/Lesbian couples still have the abiltity to love and care for a child the same and inmany cases BETTER than some straight couples.

I don't see a problem with it at all.

I also disagree with the comment about two males having a girl and needing a females role model and vice versa.
There a a million and one single parents out there who do not have role models of the opposite sex for their kids and they do fabulously.

I don't think its fair that just becasue hetrosexual couples are seen as 'the norm' that they shoudl miss out on the good thinsg in life, like marriage and babies.
They are people too with the same feelings.... Imagine being told you weren't allowed to have a baby or worse still, imagine people telling you that it is wrong to have a baby.

Im glad as the years go by it is becoming a more accepted thing in society, its about time!


This is exactly how I feel on this subject. Why say it again you have put it perfectly Parki.
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Originally posted by Leish Leish wrote:

Originally posted by Parki Parki wrote:


Gay/Lesbian couples still have the abiltity to love and care for a child the same and inmany cases BETTER than some straight couples.

I don't see a problem with it at all.

I also disagree with the comment about two males having a girl and needing a females role model and vice versa.
There a a million and one single parents out there who do not have role models of the opposite sex for their kids and they do fabulously.

I don't think its fair that just becasue hetrosexual couples are seen as 'the norm' that they shoudl miss out on the good thinsg in life, like marriage and babies.
They are people too with the same feelings.... Imagine being told you weren't allowed to have a baby or worse still, imagine people telling you that it is wrong to have a baby.

Im glad as the years go by it is becoming a more accepted thing in society, its about time!


This is exactly how I feel on this subject. Why say it again you have put it perfectly Parki.


Same here

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And again.
I know a number of gay/lesbian people who have children. As long as they love their children and raise their children to be loving members of society, it matters not what their family is like.

Funny that Barney said it best - A family is people and a family is love...they come in all different sizes and different shapes and mine's just right for me.

it is when it isn't right that problems start - as someone mentioned the P babies etc. Now those kids are the ones that need people to worry about them, not those in loving families.
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Originally posted by Paws Paws wrote:

My viewpoint is pretty simple...

Biblically I don't agree with it. But I do have gay friends and I love them to death...they do know my biblical standpoint but they also know it doesn't change the fact that I still love them, it's something I've always been honest about.


I am with paws on this one.
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Originally posted by miss miss wrote:



Funny that Barney said it best - A family is people and a family is love...they come in all different sizes and different shapes and mine's just right for me.



LMAO Miss but so true good old Barney
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Originally posted by kebakat kebakat wrote:

Do you have anything for or against people being interested, or in a same sex relationship?
Not at all, I think it is pretty much the same as a gender opposite relationship. I am not very good at seeing x-rated action though, for some reason it grosses me out to see male on male/ female on female sexual contact I am sure they would feel the same about my large naked arse as well.

Originally posted by kebakat kebakat wrote:

What about them being parents?
No problems with that either, they do say that your same sex parent is the most important relationship you will ever have and I am often curious on how children who have same sex parents (that goes whether they are raised by 2 Uncles's or 2 Lesbians) feel about that.

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I have nothing against gay and lesbian couples. My tutor when I was at hairdressing school was gay and he was SOO funny, he had me in stitches he was just so funny lol.
However, I dont really like seeing them...in "action" so to speak, like in public it sort makes me cringe when they kiss and stuff, but thats only cos im not gay so I dont see what they see, if that makes sense.
Just like, they may find it gross when a man and women kiss..
Other than that, I have no probs, and I dont see why they cant be parents, you have single mums and single dads, so why can you have two mums or two dads, no differene really

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I think that so long as child is loved and wanted then it doesnt matter whether it has 2 mums or 2 dads or 1 mum or 1 dad or any other combination.

We have a lesbian family within our family with 4 girls, and although they still have a great relationship with their dad they also have a great relationship with their 2nd mum.  We have also got quite a few gay / lesbian friends that are single or in long term relationships and to be honest I dont even view them as being any different to our other friends. I wouldnt ask (or think about) my other friends sexual activities so why would I do it with my gay friends? I enjoy their company and love them to bits, but we dont treat them any different because they are gay.

Role models dont have to be parents, my dad wasnt around a lot so my brother didnt get him as a role model (and when he was around he wasnt a good role model) but we always had my uncle and my grandfathers to look up to as role models.

I agree with Barney!  A family is people and a family is love....

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ok a few of you said lesbians raising boys and no father around I think kels made a valid point:

Originally posted by kels kels wrote:

Well Alize has no Dad and no uncles so he is stuck with me, his 2 older sisters and a nana!!!! That is all our family consists of HOWEVER I think I can do my very best to teach him a thing or two!!!


Its not just kels in this position (and not meaning to single you out kels) I don't doubt for a moment that Alize (male or no male around) will turn out to be as well mannered and lovely as his sisters. So the difference of lesbians and kels - except for the obvious (kels not a lesbian that is) it is females raising males
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I also have gay and lesbian friends - I also have been to a civil union with my lesbian friends which didnt seem weird. They are bringing up a teenage boy and he is really nice - hes always polite to me and others. and as far as I know he doesn't get into trouble at school etc.... hes the same age as Josh.

I also know a gay guy and a lesbian who had a child together (oh the modern world ) and hes a great dad. They have shared custody and the little girl is very rounded little girl.

So nope no worries here for me - although yeah seeing anybody PDA (over the top that is - holding hands don't bother me)
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No problem with it at all.

Like others have said, worse hetero couples out there raising kids! It's about the people, not the sexuality.
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