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ooEvaoo 
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 6:48pm |
Hey there everyone.
I was just wanting to know about the new law they passed in NZ, where if you have left NZ and are returning to visit you aren't allowed to leave the country if you owe money (have debts over there). I've been trying to look it up on the net but can't find anything ??????
Just interested as like most people I have debts but have made arrangements to pay them off, so just wanted to know a bit more about it if anyone is able to help 
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:13pm |
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It is if you have fines not debt. Try the ministry of justice website.
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 7:57pm |
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Fines over $5000, you either have to pay them or you cannot board your flight.
Fines over $1000, you are allowed to go but there is a 'silent notification' to the ministry.
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 8:12pm |
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Awwwwww k thats cool then, Thanks for that ladies :). Lucky I only have a $55 fine lolz
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:21pm |
Are you allowed to go on holiday with fines? DP owes around 10 000 i think 
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:28pm |
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Nope not out of the country now, have to pay them then and there to board the plane. Thou DH came home and told me that some guy was stopped with about $3000 and was told to pay up before he could go. He paid and left the country.
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:31pm |
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That sucks what if they are getting paid off slowly?
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Posted: 03 October 2006 at 10:58pm |
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Citizens Advice would have more details too. It is fines and overseas travel related but I am not sure what amounts and what exceptions etc.
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 8:53am |
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I know this may be an unpopular view but I don't think it sucks at all. Do the crime you got to do the time. Why should people have holidays if they haven't repaid fines?
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:23am |
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I have to disagree on that most of my partners fines were gotten when he was under 18 and for things like no reg and wof. He was kicked out of home at 15 so he had to work and wasn't getting barely enough money to support himself so could hardly afford those. We grew up in a small town and one particualer policeman used to drive past his house every day to see if his car was there and fine him if it wasn't. They also use to beat DP and his mates up any chance thay got and more fines for fighting back.
He now works really hard and is paying as much as we can afford and why shouldn't we be allowed a holiday? My parents were actually going to pay for it as we can't afford it.
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 10:29am |
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I'm sorry but we all have our crosses to bear, a lot of us have come from disadvantaged backgrounds and have had prejudice from authority figures which have led to what seems like unjust fines and convictions. I think it is admirable that you are doing the best that you can to clear the fines, but even if a holiday is paid for by someone else it usually still costs for spending money etc. Maybe your parents could help you out with the fines instead and then you could save for your own holiday?
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:36pm |
While I do agree with you Lulu, I find myself in the same predicament as Rachael. My man is paying off his fines AND doing community service to pay off $25k in fines. My parents were going to pay for our honeymoon and now we can't go because of the new law. And no they are not willing to pay off his fines & I wouldn't ask them anyway. So now I'm putting off my wedding for another 3 years. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles though aye 
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 12:44pm |
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Don't put your wedding off Toni just have a delayed honeymoon. We got married in March this year and still haven't had our honeymoon.
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:01pm |
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you can still have a honeymoon - go around the south island!!
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:16pm |
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If you have a current time payment arrangement and haven't defaulted on the payments you are allowed to leave provided you have a return ticket. So it won't affect people leaving the country who are paying off thier fines, just those who have been avoiding them.
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:24pm |
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I kinda agree with Lulu (living with a cop kinda warps your view on such things!) but this law is not out to get people who are already trying to pay off their fines, it is to get those people who ignore them and keep getting more. Andy has told me many a horrid tale of people who owe so many thousands of dollars for various reasons, only to go to court and have them wiped by the judge 'cause the amount they owe is so high. Kinda like a reward for offending...
Anyway, I don't know details but I am sure Emma is right re being allowed to go if you have an arrangement...
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 1:44pm |
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I just finished paying mine off. I was so gutted, I was 3 days late paying teh fine, and they whacked on court costs so I ended up paying an extra $100. But then it was my own fault for speeding in the first place, and then procrastinating about paying it...
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 2:03pm |
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The law is in place not to stop people from having a holiday, but because a lot of people rack up fines and then skip the country... that's what they're trying to avoid.
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:32pm |
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if you have fines you may want to look at borrowing to repay them by bank loan etc = they get repaid - you have to repay the monies anyways AND you get to travel...why have this hang over you...
another thing not mentioned here is that ifyou have baycorp listings some can actually stop you from travelling also - have knowledge of a few people stopped at border and questioned re baycorp debts...most of the time they let you go on them as dont think they can stop you per se but is a HUGE warning as may not be lenient the next time...
I made my Dh (he who buries head in sand and incurred court costs on a speed ticket) repay his - $20 a week for about 18 months - pretty painless but better than getting a warrant to arrest out on you and more court costs added!!! And he deserved it (for speeding!) so HE paid from HIS wages!
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Posted: 04 October 2006 at 5:53pm |
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I have to agree with the ladies who have said "DO the crime PAY the time" i know that ALOT of people have 1 maybe 2 fines but that really should only acummulate to $1000 thereabouts so if the ammount you owe is significantly higher than that (indicating several offenses) then that person must not have learnt a lesson and this may just be the way to get through to them. When i was younger i had a speeding ticket in a high crash point and had to pay my fine with my xmas money which really upset me BUT i shouldntv been speeding! then a week later a speeder killed someone at that exact spot and that was a horrible price for someone else to pay so lesson learnt for me.
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